New CAA rules, no batteries allowed.including AA and AAA

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#2629144 2-Jan-2021 08:39

sbiddle:

BlakJak: Spares floating around are the problem they're addressing.

The problem is this is not what CAA are saying publicly. Did you read the news story above where they say batteries can't be taken and that if found in devices (and they use toys and electronics as an example) that they will be removed?

What the CAA are saying publically is what's on their website. Karen Irwin does not speak for the CAA, she speaks for Aviation Security (and yes, I know they are under the CAA umbrella) and appears to be making a rod for AvSec's back. I will speak with whatever AvSec supervisors are working at Wellington airport this afternoon and see what I can get from them in terms of clarity. The big problem here is that they won't be be very far up the chain, all the big managers will be on leave over the new year holiday period.

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#2629154 2-Jan-2021 09:11

That's most likely why they dumped this new item now. Everyone on holiday and the news media are asleep.

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#2629230 2-Jan-2021 10:30

It probably wont matter at all how it is worded, only how it is enforced by the people working at the airports, and even that is unlikely to be consistent.

You take a battery out of a camera, you have to reset the date and time, annoying.

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#2629240 2-Jan-2021 10:47

I also travel around the country with battery powered test gear(multimeters etc) and wonder what they mean by "removable". Will they unscrew a panel off the rear of a meter to remove a 9v battery?

Usually carry the meters, but have the leads with sharp probes in checked luggage.

Flying back to Chch tomorrow afternoon so will hopefully get a chance to have a chat during check in.

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#2629310 2-Jan-2021 13:53

kiwifidget:
It probably wont matter at all how it is worded, only how it is enforced by the people working at the airports, and even that is unlikely to be consistent.

You take a battery out of a camera, you have to reset the date and time, annoying.

You don't carry your camera as hand luggage?

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#2629343 2-Jan-2021 14:52

Update: I've spoken with an AvSec team leader and just made their day...

They were a bit horrified to see the RNZ story and are, as I type, trying to escalate matters up the chain to have the story pulled or corrected, but options for achieving this are limited given the time of year. They were quite clear that the published CAA guidelines are what is being followed by AvSec (at least here in Wellington), in other words:

if batteries are inside or plugged into a device, be it a childs doll or one of sbiddle's sex toys, they are fine - AvSec will NOT be removing them. The key thing here is that the terminals are covered so, barring a fault within the device, are unlikely to short.
if batteries are external to a device they will be classified as either loose or spare and they cannot go into checked in luggage. Loose or spare batteries in check-in luggage will be removed.

In short, disregard the RNZ article as the information in it is incorrect. Instead, be guided by what is on the CAA website.

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#2629346 2-Jan-2021 15:02

Thanks @Dratsab. I'm sure @sbiddle will be most happy to have the info regarding his toys clarified!

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#2629354 2-Jan-2021 15:27

Ok, so just another case of not letting the truth spoil a story.

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#2629929 3-Jan-2021 22:17

OOI why the change? Given the relatively much lower number of flights in the last 10 months or so, I do not recall reading about any specific problem that related to this.

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#2629961 4-Jan-2021 06:26

Geektastic: OOI why the change? Given the relatively much lower number of flights in the last 10 months or so, I do not recall reading about any specific problem that related to this.

It seems to me that when these agencies have nothing better to do, they simply dream up new ideas to justify their existence or be seen to be doing something. Facts don't seem to matter.

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#2629966 4-Jan-2021 07:17

Geektastic:
OOI why the change? Given the relatively much lower number of flights in the last 10 months or so, I do not recall reading about any specific problem that related to this.

It's nothing to do with the number of flights in the past 10 months.

IATA made the changes to their DGR rules to standardise and simpify their rules around battery handling so ALL batteries are treated the same way. It's pretty simple and entirely logical really.

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#2629967 4-Jan-2021 07:20

SirHumphreyAppleby:
It seems to me that when these agencies have nothing better to do, they simply dream up new ideas to justify their existence or be seen to be doing something. Facts don't seem to matter.

That's certainly a very unique view to have of IATA who are a trade association. You seem to be confusing then with a Govt agency (which they're not) and also don't seem to understand why these changes are being made. They are entirely logical changes.

What is do stupid about this move and what facts are being ignored?

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