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#2262958 23-Jun-2019 16:53

kingdragonfly: Five Indian Cars Scores Zero In Crash Test For Safety Standards

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"Five Indian cars have scored zero out of 5 in a crash test for safety standards.The safety test were conducted by European new car assessment programme. Euro NCAP is usually taken as the last word in safety by the global Auto Industry. The five cars tested were

* Maruti Celerio

* Maruti Eeco

* Hyundai Eon

* Renault Kwid

* Mahindra Scorpio.

India isn't exactly the most forward looking car market and cars there are tiny. I got an uber in Bangalore and paid extra for a "larger more comfortable" car. It was a Suzuki Swift.

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#2262959 23-Jun-2019 16:54

New mandatory vehicle safety features in India

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This video is about a very crucial change in the Indian automobile industry- the introduction of the Automotive Industry Standard, or the AIS-145. Watch this video till the end, to understand which safety features has the government made mandatory with AIS-145 and how will these help.

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#2263006 23-Jun-2019 17:34

In third world markets (e.g. india )there is a demand to be as cheap as possible - naturally.

So items like airbags, a sidebar in a door, ABS get left off what might otherwise be similar model that we might think we recognise.

Leaving enough of those 'basic items' off a car that we might take for granted if we buy a new car here, can be the difference between, say, 1 star and 3 stars. Add ESC and that's probably nearly enough for another star.

I have oversimplified somewhat. Actual design of the shell counts of course but the examples above are indicative.

I think it was GM a few years ago that assembled a popular model for the USA iat a plant n Mexico. They assembled the same model for the local Mexican market as well. Many safety items were removed from the Mexican market model giving it a very low safety rating. It actually cost no less compared to the USA specd model. GM removed the items to save themselves money and because the items weren't mandatory in Mexico.

We are allowing ourselves to be a backdoor Mexico.

Why allow second hand used imports with less safety features than NZ new? Answer: you shouldn't.

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#2263141 24-Jun-2019 07:09

Here's recent stories about the Ford Mustang

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/mustang-receives-first-2-star-saftey-rating-since-2008/

Mustang receives first 2 star ANCAP safety rating since 2008
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“The Mustang Fastback’s 2 star safety rating is extremely disappointing. It’s not what we’d expect from Ford or any major vehicle manufacturer today, especially when ANCAP testing protocols are well known by all car makers,” Ms Stocks says.

The Mustang Fastback performed poorly across three of the four areas of assessment. Both adult and child occupant assessments didn’t reach the 5 star mark, but the poorest area was the lack of safety assist technology, which ultimately assured the 2 star safety rating.

Ms Stocks says it’s important to note the Mustang sold in Australasian markets and Europe is a different specification from the vehicles available in the United States. The US models include forward collision warning for example, which is not available in New Zealand.
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http://www.automotivenews.co.nz/industry-news/kiwi-mustang-buyers-caught-out-by-aussie-anti-hooning-laws-6554

Kiwi Mustang buyers caught out by Aussie ‘anti-hooning’ laws

New Zealand buyers of the new Ford Mustang will miss out on a performance function in the top-range V8 model because of ‘anti-hooning’ laws in Australia.

Ford NZ has confirmed the ‘line-lock’ burnout function will be missing from the 5.0-ltre V8 GT when it lands here later in the year. The GT will be priced from $71,990.

“I’m not sure where the decision was made but it has been and we have to live with it,” said its corporate communications manager Tom Clancy.

“New Zealand is getting the same batch of Mustangs as Australia. Line-lock won’t be on Australian cars, so it won’t be on New Zealand cars.”

Clancy said it was a decision Ford NZ regrets but one that is forced by ‘go too far lose your car’ anti-hooning laws across the ditch.

“I guess New Zealand has laws similar to Australia but maybe they are not as severe here. Over there you can quickly lose your car.”

Line-lock works by locking the front wheels via the push of a button, thereby allowing the rear wheels to spin. It is a feature designed mostly for the North American market, where Mustang racers can quickly raise tyre temperatures before a race. But it is standard on every other GT Mustang around the world – expect Down Under
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#2263545 24-Jun-2019 17:12

and who is to decide what is safe and not ?

ACC obviously can't so rather than fix their system, they delete it.

https://www.acc.co.nz/newsroom/stories/vehicle-risk-rating-vrr-removed-from-acc-motor-vehicle-levy/

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#2263735 25-Jun-2019 08:49

This is typical of the government. The minister Iain Lees-Galloway should feel some shame, but he won't.

Talk is cheap. Let me interpret:

We love safety, and encourage everyone to drive safe.

But we'll take the lazy approach and not incentivize safety. Because, you know, it's work.

I know we we did it in the past, but it's not as fun as writing media releases telling people to drive safe.

We know spending a dollar on incentives will save thousands of accident claims and prevent some ruined lives.

But again, it's work.

So everyman for himself."

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#2263929 25-Jun-2019 11:52

Yes but nz say yes we want safer cars ( it multitude of other thingsZ) but scream blue murder if it actually affects them or has a cost which must be paid.

Why really is this an issue.

We want to get rid of cars with poorer safety records or less features and it's the end of the world. AA moaning about how unfair it is.

Cars are involved we large numbers of deaths but of course it's always the other drivers fault. And attempts at improving behaviour is revenue gathering and nanny state.

Childish.

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#2263972 25-Jun-2019 12:35

afe66:
We want to get rid of cars with poorer safety records or less features and it's the end of the world. AA moaning about how unfair it is.

Cars are involved we large numbers of deaths but of course it's always the other drivers fault. And attempts at improving behaviour is revenue gathering and nanny state.

Childish.

There's a difference between actual crash performance and penalising cars for not having the latest and greatest technology like lane assist or automatic emergency braking.

Unfortunately there is no getting around the fact that making things mandatory reduces options at the lower end of the market. That's just reality, however inconvenient it is.

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