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antoniosk
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  #2208156 31-Mar-2019 14:01
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I particularly like this review:

 

"The mandated technology will be able to force cars to brake and slow down when the speed limit is exceeded. The new cars would also be required to have breathalyzers and distraction recognition system. The latter would warn drivers if it senses that they’re getting drowsy or are otherwise not focused on the road.

 

There will be data recorders in the car which document what happens during an accident. These new rules are called the General Safety Regulation and they have been provisionally agreed upon by the EU. It’s expected that this move could end up saving thousands of lives each year."

 

from this source:

 

https://www.ubergizmo.com/2019/03/eu-may-mandate-devices-that-make-cars-slow-down-automatically/

 

 





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  #2208285 31-Mar-2019 17:28
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I still have no issue with it. To me driving is now a work chore. If you want to have any kind of fun in a car, then do it on a track. The more automated stuff the better, though the active braking takes some getting used to. I was following a car recently near Wanaka in a 2018 Rav4, the car ahead indicated (in a 100kmh zone) that it would turn left. I lifted it off to coast as it slowed in front of me, the car recognized the car in front slow suddenly, jammed on the anchors, gave me a good ole fright. Of course the computer didn't know the car ahead was going to turn. 


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  #2208313 31-Mar-2019 19:22
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Technofreak:
elpenguino:

Cars will be limited in speed so they follow the posted limits.


Following posted limits doesn't guarantee safety at all. That was one of the points in my last post. There are many instances when sticking to the speed limit is dangerous, e.g. icy roads, heavy rain, fog etc, yet you still see some drivers not observing sensible speeds even though they may be complying with the posted speed limit.

 

 

That's why they call it a limit, not a target.

 


elpenguino

No one is claiming the computer system will be perfect - it only has to be better than the meatsack...........

 

..........This argument doesn't stand up because by using technology humans are taken out of the decision making process


Technofreak: 
I'm not sure the computer has shown it's any better than the human. One big problem with this approach is the human loses the skill of driving and decision making and when the automation fails they are not well equipped to take over. It's a problem that is starting to become an issue in the aviation world.

 

 

In the aviation world the safety rates are waaaaay better than driving and automation is a part of that. If driving was as dangerous (i.e. safe) as flying and became a little more unsafe due to a cock up with automation we would still be in a place thats much better than now.

 



elpenguino

But honestly, most kms people drive is pure drudgery.

Technofreak: 
I know I cannot speak for everyone but I drive 100 km to work and I enjoy the drive, in fact I look forward to it. I wouldn't enjoy it anywhere as much if it was automated.

 

That might well be the riskiest thing you do most days. You might be (or think you are) 'a good driver' but is everyone else and can you keep it up for every kilometre, every journey?

 

I find the resistance to the EU ideas really irrational and I surmise it's because cars have been with us for so long that everyone has simply got used to the death and destruction, all in the name of 'mah freedumms'.

 

As I pointed out in my earlier post, if you boil this issue down to its' core, do you want safer cars or not?

 

Imagine if you wanted to introduce a new vehicle and people knew how much trouble, death and injury it would cause, you wouldn't get very far. Look what happened with the lime scooters recently and imagine the kick back against their safety problems x  1 million.





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  #2208340 31-Mar-2019 21:22
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antoniosk:

 

I particularly like this review:

 

"The mandated technology will be able to force cars to brake and slow down when the speed limit is exceeded. The new cars would also be required to have breathalyzers and distraction recognition system. The latter would warn drivers if it senses that they’re getting drowsy or are otherwise not focused on the road.

 

There will be data recorders in the car which document what happens during an accident. These new rules are called the General Safety Regulation and they have been provisionally agreed upon by the EU. It’s expected that this move could end up saving thousands of lives each year."

 

from this source:

 

https://www.ubergizmo.com/2019/03/eu-may-mandate-devices-that-make-cars-slow-down-automatically/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Insurers have been offering these voluntarily in the UK to young drivers in return for reduced insurance premiums for quite a long time.






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