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Topic # 240755 24-Sep-2018 12:47
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/09/government-promises-decent-incentives-for-electric-cars.html

 

From the above:

 

The Government will soon offer incentives to New Zealanders looking to purchase electric vehicles, to move people away from traditional cars that burn fossil fuels. 

 

"What we're trying to do is get a package that incentivises your middle class people to be able to do that, but also ensures that low income families aren't left behind," Climate Change Minister James Shaw told The AM Show. 

 

New Zealand now has around 10,000 electric vehicles, compared to just 250 five years ago, so there is an "exponential growth rate," Mr Shaw says. But that's only a quarter of one percent (0.25 percent) of the total vehicles on the roads. 

 

So perhaps it may pay to hold-off buying a new EV until these incentives come into force?

 

 


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  Reply # 2095450 24-Sep-2018 12:50
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Watching with interest!


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  Reply # 2095452 24-Sep-2018 12:56
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Very much so. Typical incentives are in the $10,000 range in other countries. Incentives. That may mean many things, you can guarantee lower rego for 5 years. Maybe interest free loan. Maybe a Solar PV/EV package, as PV may be a bit more enticing if there is a car to dump excess charging into in weekends. I feel a $20,000 interest free loan is the go, but pay back $15000 over 5 years, if buyers can fund that $60 pw from part of fuel savings and still be ahead. Maybe they may impot pre owned EV's for the lower incomed people?

 

They need to give more details soon otherwise it will freeze sales


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  Reply # 2095460 24-Sep-2018 12:59
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As usual no detail from the Government. Why don't they save their "announcement" till they have something to actually report!? Oh right, they need "something" to announce at the climate event they are at!

 

I mean, it's good they are trying to incentivise EV, but they could do anything... 

 

How will the government tax those EV vehicles to ensure they share the cost of the roads with the rest of us?

 

 


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  Reply # 2095465 24-Sep-2018 13:07
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Initially low, maybe no taxes, that's probably part of the incentive.


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  Reply # 2095468 24-Sep-2018 13:12
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tdgeek:

 

Initially low, maybe no taxes, that's probably part of the incentive.

 

 

Great, so the majority of NZ will subsidise them, seems fair. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2095472 24-Sep-2018 13:20
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tdgeek:

 

Initially low, maybe no taxes, that's probably part of the incentive.

 

 

Great, so the majority of NZ will subsidise them, seems fair. 

 

 

 

 

If incentives are fair it doesn't matter how the are incentivised, its just a $ figure in the consolidated fund. The trick is to incentivise so it sounds good, people like it, even though other forms may give the same end result. Its just a numbers game to get traction


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  Reply # 2095473 24-Sep-2018 13:22
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You understand these have to be temporary, right? Otherwise if we all, tomorrow went out and bought EV's, there would be no-one to pay for the roads.

 

 


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  Reply # 2095478 24-Sep-2018 13:25
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networkn:

 

You understand these have to be temporary, right? Otherwise if we all, tomorrow went out and bought EV's, there would be no-one to pay for the roads.

 

 

 

 

Off course they are temporary as are the ones currently in place for EV's. IIRC from the other EV threads there is a threshold based on market share


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  Reply # 2095480 24-Sep-2018 13:26
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I'm already subsidising EV vehicle owners. I'll be unhappy subsidising them further.

 

You can't keep giving EV owners greater subsidies and trying to recoup the cost of roads from petrol and diesel vehicle owners.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2095483 24-Sep-2018 13:29
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I'm already subsidising EV vehicle owners. I'll be unhappy subsidising them further.

 

You can't keep giving EV owners greater subsidies and trying to recoup the cost of roads from petrol and diesel vehicle owners.

 

 

 

 

 

 

EV share is almost non existent, so with that it doesn't matter. As it becomes more material, the subsidy, assuming that's part of it will fall away.


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  Reply # 2095488 24-Sep-2018 13:32
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Poor ole Labour and the Greens must be in a real pickle.They have been so slow to announce any help for people to own an ev.Yet now it seems they have no choice because they will look ridiculous at the world summit telling other countries to get their act together and stop dragging the chain, when in reality this is exactly what they are doing themselves.




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  Reply # 2095489 24-Sep-2018 13:33
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sbiddle:

 

I'm already subsidising EV vehicle owners. I'll be unhappy subsidising them further.

 

You can't keep giving EV owners greater subsidies and trying to recoup the cost of roads from petrol and diesel vehicle owners.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We have to keep in mind that the main reason for a Government subsidy is for climate change reasons. Isn't this sufficient reason for a decent subsidy?

 

 


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  Reply # 2095495 24-Sep-2018 13:38
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Poor ole Labour and the Greens must be in a real pickle.They have been so slow to announce any help for people to own an ev.Yet now it seems they have no choice because they will look ridiculous at the world summit telling other countries to get their act together and stop dragging the chain, when in reality this is exactly what they are doing themselves.

 

 

You are in the wrong thread


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  Reply # 2095498 24-Sep-2018 13:41
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The existing EV RUC scheme set up by the last Govt was based on a target and a year. 2021, it then ends. Quite possibly revived in a new form one would expect

 

https://www.transport.govt.nz/multi-modal/climatechange/electric-vehicles/

 

So for those whining about politics, EV support, RUC subsidies are cross party policies.


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  Reply # 2095523 24-Sep-2018 14:07
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tdgeek:

 

Dinga96:

 

Poor ole Labour and the Greens must be in a real pickle.They have been so slow to announce any help for people to own an ev.Yet now it seems they have no choice because they will look ridiculous at the world summit telling other countries to get their act together and stop dragging the chain, when in reality this is exactly what they are doing themselves.

 

 

You are in the wrong thread

 

 

No this is the right thread alright.


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