Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
To post in this sub-forum you must have made 100 posts or have Trust status or have completed our ID Verification

Forums › Politics › Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 1205 | 1206 | 1207 | 1208 | 1209 | 1210 | 1211 | 1212 | 1213 | 1214 | 1215 | ... | 2484
nathan
5695 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1630
Inactive user


  #2566007 16-Sep-2020 14:35
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

The rest of the world (with a few exceptions) also don't want the US as "World Police" either.  Especially a US that's actively sabotaging all organisations involved in agreements on security, trade, health, human rights, and environmental protection.

 

 

 

We've entered an era of deglobalization, we need to invent a new world order, supply chains need to be rewired - sure international institutions are not prepared for that, having Trump around still blows their minds.  A lot of voters view globalization as a zero sum game - here we go back to 1930s isolationism and protectionism.

 

Small open economies aren't going to like the next decade.

 

Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10018


  #2566023 16-Sep-2020 15:22
Send private message quote this post

nathan:

 

Fred99:

 

The rest of the world (with a few exceptions) also don't want the US as "World Police" either.  Especially a US that's actively sabotaging all organisations involved in agreements on security, trade, health, human rights, and environmental protection.

 

 

We've entered an era of deglobalization, we need to invent a new world order, supply chains need to be rewired - sure international institutions are not prepared for that, having Trump around still blows their minds.  A lot of voters view globalization as a zero sum game - here we go back to 1930s isolationism and protectionism.

 

Small open economies aren't going to like the next decade.

 

 

That's one more reason I want Biden to win.  Small open nations like NZ have been used to being screwed over (ie it's very hard getting equitable trade access with the US, EU, Japan etc) and it's going to get worse for no benefit.  NZ does a LOT of trade with China and I hope can continue to do so *without* it becoming political - but being aware of Chinese hegemony and addressing it on another forum.  The Trumpian way is the wrong way, using trade as a coercive bargaining tool *always* backfires.  Trump's "exclusions" to sanctions to placate Iowa soybean farmers doesn't work and never will.  If you think for a second he'd not do deals to put Trump Hotels in China if he had the chance - of course he would - while simultaneously mouthing-off about Chinese military expansion blah blah.  Then there's Ivanka's handbag business.

 

One of Hillary's biggest mistakes IMO was her U-turn on TPP.  Of course many countries (Aus / NZ) didn't like lack of trade concessions by the US and pressure to change our trading relations to placate US "Big Pharma" - but on balance it was a step in the right direction.  But that was sabotaged by lies about how abandoning TPP would help the US Blue Collar worker.  4 years later - it hasn't - it's only benefited your intensely wealthy and oligarch class, most of whom are staunch Republicans.

Sideface
9659 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15639

Trusted
DR
Lifetime subscriber

  #2566051 16-Sep-2020 15:42
Send private message quote this post

The Washington Post - Trump seems to believe in magic over science

 

today

 


President Trump doesn’t think Americans should put much stock in scientific consensus.

 

He prefers to sprinkle our most intractable and urgent problems with pixie dust and promises that - presto! - they will simply vanish.

 

The latest example of Trump’s magical thinking came Monday, when the president dismissed a suggestion that the dozens of fires raging across the West could be related to human-caused climate change.

 

Although 2020 is on track to be one of the hottest years on record, the president told state and local officials in McClellan Park, Calif., that “it will start getting cooler. You just watch.” ...

 

This is the same president who has insisted - repeatedly - that the novel coronavirus would simply “go away.” ...

 



 

 


EDIT

 

The New York Times - ‘Nothing to Do With Climate Change’: Conservative Media and Trump Align on Fires

 

today 

 


Rush Limbaugh told millions of his radio listeners to set aside any suggestion that climate change was the culprit for the frightening spate of wildfires ravaging California and the Pacific Northwest.

 

“Man-made global warming is not a scientific certainty; it cannot be proven, nor has it ever been,” Mr. Limbaugh declared on his Friday show, disregarding the mountains of empirical evidence to the contrary. ...

 

Hours later, Fox News host Tucker Carlson said those who blamed climate change for the fires were merely reciting “a partisan talking point.” ...

 




Sideface

MikeB4
MikeB4
18777 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 12769

ID Verified
Trusted
Subscriber

  #2566070 16-Sep-2020 16:20
Send private message quote this post

In my view it does not matter if Trump wins(very likely) or Biden wins the US is in for a violent crap storm and will reach beyond its borders. For the US 2020 was just the dress rehearsal.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

Rikkitic
Awrrr
19081 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 16340

Lifetime subscriber

  #2566072 16-Sep-2020 16:26
Send private message quote this post

MikeB4: In my view it does not matter if Trump wins(very likely) or Biden wins the US is in for a violent crap storm and will reach beyond its borders. For the US 2020 was just the dress rehearsal.

 

Congrats @nathan. You finally have a recruit.

 

 




Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 

MikeB4
MikeB4
18777 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 12769

ID Verified
Trusted
Subscriber

  #2566078 16-Sep-2020 16:30
Send private message quote this post

Rikkitic:

MikeB4: In my view it does not matter if Trump wins(very likely) or Biden wins the US is in for a violent crap storm and will reach beyond its borders. For the US 2020 was just the dress rehearsal.


Congrats @nathan. You finally have a recruit.


 



For goodness sake leave the personal crap at the door and move on, it getting really tiresome. @freitasm has already raised this BS.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

jarledb
Webhead
3320 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1983

Moderator
ID Verified
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2566103 16-Sep-2020 17:21
Send private message quote this post

nathan:

 

We've entered an era of deglobalization

 

 

Except, we haven't. What has happened to change the trade with China, other than Trump adding an extra tax on Americans for chinese goods?

 

The trade wars that Trump have been getting into has caused a lot of job losses in the US and it has raised the price of goods being imported, without manufacturing moving to the US.

 

 




Jarle Dahl Bergersen | Referral Links: Want $50 off when you join Octopus Energy? Use this referral code
Are you happy with what you get from Geekzone? Please consider supporting us by making a donation or subscribing.

neb

neb
11294 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10018

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2566105 16-Sep-2020 17:29
Send private message quote this post


A fundraising ad for US president Donald Trump’s re-election campaign reportedly used a stock photo featuring Russian fighter jets and weapons as part of a call for viewers to “support our troops”.



Silly Donald. You're supposed to show the military gear you use, not the gear your boss uses.

neb

neb
11294 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10018

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2566108 16-Sep-2020 17:41
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

and probably bribing cops)



There's no need to, we taxpayers are already paying the police to ensure marijuana prices remain artificially high, thus ensuring it's profitable for gangs to be involved in them. No need to pay a second time when the taxpayer is already footing the bill.

nathan
5695 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1630
Inactive user


  #2566123 16-Sep-2020 18:24
Send private message quote this post

neb: Silly Donald. You're supposed to show the military gear you use, not the gear your boss uses.


When elite liberals believe in a conspiracy theory, it becomes true, like Russiagate. It’s like birtherism for the left.

They start off with something vaguely real then add krazy kompromat and kooky stuff. America is plenty capable of dividing itself without the Democrats needing to blame Russia

kingdragonfly
12001 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 12907

Subscriber

  #2566170 16-Sep-2020 18:49
Send private message quote this post

Sideface:

The Washington Post - Trump seems to believe in magic over science



Nothing up my sleeves. Nothing between my ears. Now for a sprinkling of my magic Adderall powder, and the magic words "snortius maximus! Grab bium pussymus"

nathan
5695 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1630
Inactive user


  #2566214 16-Sep-2020 20:11
Send private message quote this post

jarledb:

 

Roger Stone to Donald Trump: bring in martial law if you lose election.

 

Welcome to the banana republic of USA.

 

 

Welcome to a failed state

 

thinking about the worst scenarios for that 78 day transition time will be, given Americas history, and they may all happen at once

 

1860 Election tribal fallout where 7 states succeeded from the Union

 

1876 Hayes-Tilden disputed results that lasted until 2 days before the inauguration

 

1932 Hoover-Roosevelt economic disaster where sitting president didn't help president elect

 

Projecting the 78 harrowing days after the election

nathan
5695 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1630
Inactive user


  #2566230 16-Sep-2020 20:44
Send private message quote this post

jarledb:

 

nathan:

 

We've entered an era of deglobalization

 

 

Except, we haven't. What has happened to change the trade with China, other than Trump adding an extra tax on Americans for chinese goods?

 

 

certainly less globalization and probably the unwinding of existing

 

Subsequently pandemic, increased nationalism, unfavorable views of China reaching new historic highs, Americans faulting China for its role in the spread of COVID and still divided on whether globalization is good for their country or not

 

gzt

gzt
18724 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7860

Lifetime subscriber

  #2566237 16-Sep-2020 20:57
Send private message quote this post

I don't really understand the focus on China. It almost looks like a weird conspiracy theory in lieu of addressing real issues.

neb

neb
11294 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10018

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2566240 16-Sep-2020 21:01
Send private message quote this post

gzt: I don't really understand the focus on China. It almost looks like a weird conspiracy theory in lieu of addressing real issues.

 

 

The US right is obsessed with China. No idea why, I assume because Eastasia makes a useful general-purpose bogeyman, sort of like the Commies in the 1950s.

1 | ... | 1205 | 1206 | 1207 | 1208 | 1209 | 1210 | 1211 | 1212 | 1213 | 1214 | 1215 | ... | 2484
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic


Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Updates »

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.


RSS feeds
Main feed
Forums feed
Copyright
©2002-2026 Geekzone®
Site features
Geekzone BI dashboard
Geekzone Badges
Geekzone Status Page

 

Site Information
Subscribe to Geekzone
Privacy Statement
Forum Usage Guidelines (FUG)
Advertising
Trademark and copyright