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#2200870 18-Mar-2019 15:36

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Bluntj: He committed the crime in NZ under our laws and should serve ALL his punishment here, away from his friends and family. He should be treated no different to any other non national criminal.

He's an Australian national and I highly object, as a tax payer, to footing the bill for housing him (which will likely cost significantly more due to his offending type) for what is possibly going to be 60 years.

If we foot the bill, I would support subcontracting it out to a Thai MaxSec Prison, which would cost a fraction of the same thing here. I don't want him on our soil.

Suck's when the shoe is on the other foot - Australia has a policy of exporting Immigrant (ex)crim's back to their country of origin, which many in this country object to. You might also find that there are more kiwi's in Aussie jails (than Aussies in kiwi jails) that they would gladly dump on the kiwi tax payer.

I suspect AU will be putting as much distance between themselves and this guy as possible - they won't want to take responsibility for incarcerating him because that is acknowledging some degree of national culpability.

Australia deport AFTER they have done the jail time.

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#2200896 18-Mar-2019 16:19

The Washington Post - New Zealand shooting: Alleged gunman fires lawyer, says he’ll represent himself

March 17 at 9:45 PM

CHRISTCHURCH, New Zealand — The man accused of mass shootings at mosques in New Zealand has fired his lawyer and plans to represent himself in court, leading to speculation that he might try to use his trial as a platform for extremist views.

*********, 28, of Australia, who has been charged with one count of murder, appeared to be lucid and not mentally unstable, said Richard Peters, his former attorney. ...

The death toll from Friday’s attacks exceeds New Zealand’s annual homicide rate; 35 people were killed in 2017, the latest year for which figures are available. ...

The prominent Gun City billboard advertises air rifles and shows a man instructing children to shoot at a target.

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#2200913 18-Mar-2019 16:50

New Zealand mosque attacks: Social media comes under attack

Al Jazeera English

Since Friday's attacks at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, social media platforms have been criticised for failing to stop the suspect's shooting video, and hate-filled manifesto, from going viral.
Why was it so difficult for the social media giants, with all their resources and latest technology, to contain the spread of videos of New Zealand mosque attacks?

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#2200917 18-Mar-2019 17:00

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111371826/all-the-money-donated-to-christchurch-will-go-to-victims

All of the money donated to victims of the Christchurch terrorist attack will go directly to their families, Givealittle has announced.

Givealittle normally takes a 5 per cent service fee on donations pages given via the site.

However, a spokesperson for the organisation confirmed the entire service fee, including third-party transaction costs, would go to Victim Support.

At 3pm on Monday, more than $5.3 million had been donated to the official page of Victim Support.

"Thank you to Westpac NZ and Payment Express who are sponsoring the third-party transaction costs and Spark Foundation who are covering the rest. This contribution amounts to at least $250,000 that will go directly to Victim Support," a spokeswoman said.

"Victim Support have assured us that this is not a fundraiser for Victim Support's regular operating costs. All funds will be used to directly support victims affected by the incidents, including other organisations they are working with, and the families themselves. This will include direct financial support. The situation is fluid with details of victims' needs still emerging, and Victim Support will provide updates to their page when appropriate."

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#2200956 18-Mar-2019 18:07

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213950

That is some amazing strength. A strength I don't believe I have. Amazing.

For all the bad wraps that Religion/faith/belief gets, there are plenty of good and amazing things that come from it.

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#2200972 18-Mar-2019 18:33

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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213950

That is some amazing strength. A strength I don't believe I have. Amazing.

For all the bad wraps that Religion/faith/belief gets, there are plenty of good and amazing things that come from it.

A true Muslim of the purest order.

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#2200977 18-Mar-2019 18:42

GCSB says Five Eyes did not pass on anything before the attack

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#2201027 18-Mar-2019 19:44

PM statement on Christchurch mosques terror attack – 18 March

Good afternoon everyone. I want to acknowledge that I have the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs with me in case there are any wider questions from a foreign policy perspective or any questions around contact that we’ve had from other world leaders over the course of the last 72 hours.

Before I begin I want to acknowledge again and use this opportunity to again highlight 1737 as the contact number that anyone can text or call if they are feeling distress, if they have any mental health concerns for themselves or a loved one.

We have had, I’m advised, over 500 calls or contacts to the 1737 number. It has ranged from people who simply feel distressed to those themselves — those who have been caught up in the terrorist attack on Friday. So it is a line that has specialist support available and I again encourage those who need it to utilise it.

Let me give you an overview to begin with of the coming days. Tomorrow, as the Leader of the House has advised, members of Parliament will gather in the House at 2pm to make statements of condolence for victims of the Christchurch mosques terror attack. The House will then adjourn for the day and will meet again on Wednesday at 2pm for members’ day.

On Wednesday, I will return to Christchurch. I will be meeting again with first responders, including St John’s ambulance and front-line support staff. I plan on meeting with family members, but I’m also very mindful that families are receiving their loved ones for burial and I certainly intend, and I ask others also, to be respectful of course at this hugely sensitive time.

Today Cabinet was expanded to include representatives from our confidence and supply support partner, the Green Party. It was an opportunity to discuss several key issues and pieces of work, and having all parties around the table has helped to expedite that process. I’ll run through now several preliminary decisions that have been made.

Cabinet today made in-principle decisions around the reform of our gun laws. I intend to give further detail of these decisions to the media and public before Cabinet meets again next Monday. This ultimately means that within 10 days of this horrific act of terrorism, we will have announced reforms which will, I believe, make our community safer.

In the intervening period, we will be working hard and as quickly as we can to finalise some of the details around the decision Cabinet has made today and the consequences of it.

As a Cabinet, we were absolutely unified and very clear: the terror attack in Christchurch on Friday was the worst act of terrorism on our shores.

It was in fact one of the worst globally in recent times.

It has exposed a range of weaknesses in New Zealand’s gun laws.

The clear lesson from history around the world is that to make our community safer, the time to act is now. I know that this might for a short period create a small degree of uncertainty amongst some gun owners, including those who possess guns for legitimate reasons, and I particularly acknowledge those in our rural communities. I want to assure you that the work that we are doing is not directed at you.

In fact, I strongly believe that the vast majority of gun owners in New Zealand will agree with the sentiment that change needs to occur. I, in fact, believe that they will be with us.

In the meantime, I want to remind people: you can surrender your gun to the police at any time. In fact I have seen reports that people are, in fact, already doing this.

I applaud that effort, and if you’re thinking about surrendering your weapon, I would encourage you to do so.

Today it was also agreed that there will be an inquiry to look at the specific circumstances leading up to the Christchurch mosques terror attack on March 15. The purpose of this inquiry is to look at what all relevant agencies knew or could or should have known about the individual and his activities, including his access to weapons and whether they could have been in a position to prevent the attack.

It will look at whether there were any impediments to the sharing of information, such as legislative or intelligence sharing challenges. The key agencies we’ll be looking at include the New Zealand SIS, GCSB, Police, Customs, and Immigration I want to highlight again, though: this is an inquiry that these agencies absolutely support.

The inquiry will also look at the individual’s travel movements to and from New Zealand, and internationally; his activities in New Zealand; and his use of social media and his connection to others.

The terms of reference are currently being finalised, and decisions around who will lead the inquiry and what form it will take will also be made shortly. Our key considerations will be public confidence in the work, timeliness, and the management of classified information. We’re also mindful, of course, that criminal proceedings are under way.

The Government has also had preliminary discussions around ensuring New Zealanders have the ability to commemorate as one the lives lost at Deans Avenue and Linwood mosques. A number of vigils have already been held in local communities throughout New Zealand; I have no doubt that these will continue.

In fact, I encourage people to come together. While I will not be announcing the memorial date today, I can assure you that the Department of Internal Affairs will be working in conjunction with the Muslim community, iwi, local government, and the mayor of Christchurch, police, and other agencies.

I can confirm the memorial will not be held this week. We want to ensure that the priority for the coming days is the families’ opportunity to grieve together. I will, however, look to announce a date as soon as I am able.

As I said yesterday, the families of those who have lost a loved one can apply for a funeral grant of around $10,000, which is made available via ACC.

What I’ve made clear to agencies today is that further costs should be covered upfront for these families taking their loved ones overseas. Details around these provisions are currently being finalised by officials, but Victim Support will help manage this process with the victims’ families.

There will continue to be high police visibility and presence over coming weeks in Christchurch. I understand this may concern some people, but it is not about a specific threat.

As I’ve said before, this is about taking a precautionary approach and providing reassurance as investigations continue into the terrorist attack on Friday.

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#2201146 18-Mar-2019 21:01

Look at these... I am not sure why cover their names. They should all be reported to the police.

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#2201155 18-Mar-2019 21:09

And do people remember that idiotic owner of the insulation company in Christchurch decking out his vans in Nazi imagery and $14.88? His personal channel and only video were reported by myself and a number of other people. Still there.

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#2201180 18-Mar-2019 21:24

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And do people remember that idiotic owner of the insulation company in Christchurch decking out his vans in Nazi imagery and $14.88? His personal channel and only video were reported by myself and a number of other people. Still there.

That's because it's google/youtube, the American corporation with global reach that used to have the motto "don't be evil", but lost the database file defining evil.

Evil now is a video upload of few friends singing karaoke on our deck, banned because they thought it infringed copyright.

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#2201182 18-Mar-2019 21:25

freitasm:

Look at these... I am not sure why cover their names. They should all be reported to the police.

For anyone who wants to report the person calling Islam "Religious Ebola" just search on Facebook using that phrase and her name comes up instantly.

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#2201184 18-Mar-2019 21:29

freitasm:

Look at these... I am not sure why cover their names. They should all be reported to the police.

I'm quietly confident that this kind of thing is going to end in civilised nations, but it won't be because Zuckerberg became human.

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#2201246 18-Mar-2019 22:36

Egg Boy to donate money raised for him to Christchurch victims.

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#2201260 18-Mar-2019 22:56

Bands are throwing lifetime tickets at him and want him at their concerts.

One million signatures on a petition to drop the MP.

Its this type of thing that will create a lifestyle where all of us are ready to dob in anyone displaying any clues of deviance. Ridiculous thought but maybe history books might refer to this as the egg that changed everything. Its up to everyone to learn about what to look for and to be a passive extension of the Police.

Posts here (Not GZ, in posts at GZ) display deviant behaviour in social media, we need a public process to be built to allow us to easily pass info on.

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