Cryptocurrency mining proof of concept (with actual numbers)

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Ultimate Geek

#951219 12-Dec-2013 20:42

and here are my little troopers hard at work

http://prntscr.com/2ajh78

not sure why they seem to be processing different amounts of primes though as they are all similarly spec'd out

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gundar

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Ultimate Geek

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#951220 12-Dec-2013 20:44

gjm: and here are my little troopers hard at work

http://prntscr.com/2ajh78

not sure why they seem to be processing different amounts of primes though as they are all similarly spec'd out

Those are pretty decent numbers, what are those machine specs?

gjm

808 posts

Ultimate Geek

#951231 12-Dec-2013 20:50

Its a dual processor quad core Intel Xeon E5-2407 at 2.2ghz. All of those are VM's on a hyper v platform. While the VM's are reporting 100% cpu usage with htop the actual cpu on the host is trundling along at 4% utilization. So I have overhead to make about 100 more :)

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educatedtim

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Wannabe Geek

#951247 12-Dec-2013 21:11

I am getting...

[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:57:24 | 7-CH: 76 (89.4% | 3.9/h), 8-CH: 8 (9.4% | 0.4/h), 9-CH: 1 (1.2% | 0.1/h), VL: 8 5 (97.7%), RJ: 2 (2.3%), ST: 0 (0.0%)
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:57:57 | 1596 primes/s, 24674 tests/s, 420 5-chains/h, 0.858 chains/d
[MASTER] work received
[MASTER] work received
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:58:57 | 1562 primes/s, 24116 tests/s, 540 5-chains/h, 0.823 chains/d
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:59:57 | 1653 primes/s, 25644 tests/s, 720 5-chains/h, 0.853 chains/d
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 08:00:57 | 1344 primes/s, 20689 tests/s, 480 5-chains/h, 0.728 chains/d

I wonder how one of these will perform....

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/creating-a-99-parallel-computing-machine-is-just-as-hard-as-it-sounds/

was unable to check cpu usage with those commands. Will try to find another way

gundar

488 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#951257 12-Dec-2013 21:17

educatedtim: I am getting...

[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:57:24 | 7-CH: 76 (89.4% | 3.9/h), 8-CH: 8 (9.4% | 0.4/h), 9-CH: 1 (1.2% | 0.1/h), VL: 8 5 (97.7%), RJ: 2 (2.3%), ST: 0 (0.0%)
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:57:57 | 1596 primes/s, 24674 tests/s, 420 5-chains/h, 0.858 chains/d
[MASTER] work received
[MASTER] work received
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:58:57 | 1562 primes/s, 24116 tests/s, 540 5-chains/h, 0.823 chains/d
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 07:59:57 | 1653 primes/s, 25644 tests/s, 720 5-chains/h, 0.853 chains/d
[MASTER] work received
[STATS] 2013-12-12 08:00:57 | 1344 primes/s, 20689 tests/s, 480 5-chains/h, 0.728 chains/d

I wonder how one of these will perform....

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/creating-a-99-parallel-computing-machine-is-just-as-hard-as-it-sounds/

was unable to check cpu usage with those commands. Will try to find another way

I think those types of 'puters will do well out of a pool, mining solo.

jbard

1377 posts

Uber Geek

#951284 12-Dec-2013 22:08

So I have setup two DO droplets. A tip on another forum is to check your CPU usage in the graphs menu. If you aren't getting more than 55% usage then destroy and recreate the droplet. Lucky both of mine are hitting ~75%.

I also have a heap of Windows Azure credits I got from various conferences so have a 8 core large instance just starting up. Will be interesting to see what sort of performance I can get out of that.

I think you can get $200 in Azure credits by signing to a free trial. Only lasts a month but might be worth it for a risk free jump into mining.

One other question, have you considered any other coins apart from PrimeCoin?
I have heard you can make a profit on Quark and ProtoShare?

stevenz

2802 posts

Uber Geek

#951285 12-Dec-2013 22:09

My 3.1Ghz i5 Quad is trucking along, all 4 cores pegged at 100%, doing about 1400 primes/s per worker.

Still waiting for it to plug anything into beeeer.org or btc-e. Entertaining to watch.

Interesting conversation about the beeeer.org versus ypool.net;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310569.0

Seems people with more powerful hardware may be better off with ypool?

So if I were to run additional threads on other hardware, it just adds what it finds into the pool on my behalf?

Oh, and in case anyone is interested, the system is running Ubuntu 12.04.3 in a Parallels VM inside a Mac OS X 10.9 installation on a Hackintosh box running off SSD. Means I can isolate and monitor it easily as well as change the "hardware" configuration at a whim. OS X itself is showing >390% CPU usage, so it's doing it's thing!

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gundar

488 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#951286 12-Dec-2013 22:12

jbard: So I have setup two DO droplets. A tip on another forum is to check your CPU usage in the graphs menu. If you aren't getting more than 55% usage then destroy and recreate the droplet. Lucky both of mine are hitting ~75%.

I also have a heap of Windows Azure credits I got from various conferences so have a 8 core large instance just starting up. Will be interesting to see what sort of performance I can get out of that.

I think you can get $200 in Azure credits by signing to a free trial. Only lasts a month but might be worth it for a risk free jump into mining.

One other question, have you considered any other coins apart from PrimeCoin?
I have heard you can make a profit on Quark and ProtoShare?

Nope, haven't tried any others apart from BTC and XPM, sorry, can;t pass an opinion on either.

gundar

488 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#951289 12-Dec-2013 22:17

stevenz: My 3.1Ghz i5 Quad is trucking along, all 4 cores pegged at 100%, doing about 1400 primes/s per worker.

Still waiting for it to plug anything into beeeer.org or btc-e. Entertaining to watch.

Interesting conversation about the beeeer.org versus ypool.net;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310569.0

Seems people with more powerful hardware may be better off with ypool?

So if I were to run additional threads on other hardware, it just adds what it finds into the pool on my behalf?

Oh, and in case anyone is interested, the system is running Ubuntu 12.04.3 in a Parallels VM inside a Mac OS X 10.9 installation on a Hackintosh box running off SSD. Means I can isolate and monitor it easily as well as change the "hardware" configuration at a whim. OS X itself is showing >390% CPU usage, so it's doing it's thing!

Seems they only have a Windows client?

stevenz

2802 posts

Uber Geek

#951295 12-Dec-2013 22:22

They use jhprimeminer, source is available to compile it under *nix.

https://github.com/tandyuk/jhPrimeminer <- This is 3.3. Ray De Bourbon's latest is 4.0 which is pretty much Windows only at this stage. Might try a Windows VM instead.

I'll give it a crack and see how I go.

Edit:

So, ypool actually has a UI on the web page, you need to sign up with an account, plug your payment address in under the main settings, then once you've got the client up and running, the commandline info is in their HOWTO section. I'm just rebuilding the VM with a 64bit image because the fact that 64bit is "5-15 times faster" makes it seem like a no-brainer :)

@KnightNZ

gundar

488 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#951312 12-Dec-2013 22:59

stevenz: They use jhprimeminer, source is available to compile it under *nix.

https://github.com/tandyuk/jhPrimeminer <- This is 3.3. Ray De Bourbon's latest is 4.0 which is pretty much Windows only at this stage. Might try a Windows VM instead.

I'll give it a crack and see how I go.

Edit:

So, ypool actually has a UI on the web page, you need to sign up with an account, plug your payment address in under the main settings, then once you've got the client up and running, the commandline info is in their HOWTO section. I'm just rebuilding the VM with a 64bit image because the fact that 64bit is "5-15 times faster" makes it seem like a no-brainer :)

PPS = 8723?

jhPrimeminer on Ubuntu 12.04

Create account at ypool.net
Enter Payment Address under account options
Under Workers, create a worker username and password

At server:

sudo /etc/init.d/supervisor stop
rm /etc/supervisor/conf.d/primecoin.conf
cd
git clone https://github.com/tandyuk/jhPrimeminer.git
sudo apt-get install build-essential libssl-dev openssl git libgmp3-dev
cd jhPrimeminer
make
./jhprimeminer -o http://ypool.net:8080 -u <ypool account name>.xpm_1 -t 8 -p <worker password>

I'll leave it overnight and see what it looks like tomorrow.

Cheers

stevenz

2802 posts

Uber Geek

#951316 12-Dec-2013 23:15

I'm getting around 44000 PPS here on ypool. All 4 cores pegged at 100% again. Shall look again in the morning. Setting up a Win7 VM as well, will do a comparison and see if it's notably faster/slower.

As per recommendation in another thread, I've changed the Primordial Multiplier to 61, the default is lower and apparently only needed on older CPUs. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140271;sa=showPosts)

The major difference I see with ypool is that you appear to need a separate worker for each instance of the client, these are just created in the UI and the login details changed as needed (username.xpm_1 to username.xpm_2 or whatever). Shall experiment further though.

Val/h: 0.06209442 - PPS: 41787 - SPS: 36.73978043 - ACC: 1118 - Primorial: 61 Chain/Hr: 6: 13.80

Woo, I've actually got some XPM, sort of...

0.00003372

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gundar

488 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#951322 12-Dec-2013 23:32

Hmmm, I think my server is somewhat light in the pants...

leaplae

218 posts

Master Geek

ID Verified

#951323 12-Dec-2013 23:48

I was mining on Amazon aws a couple of weeks back when you could get a 32 core instance for .257 cents an hour. Managed to get my instance limit raised from 20 to 1000, and by running multiple accounts managed to get a grand total of 1121 32 core instances running on prime coin (35872 cores, 67.26 TB of memory). During that time, each machine was making me .11 XPM per hour (back then that was about .63 NZD per machine per hour at a cost of .257 USD per machine per hour). Primes per second per machine was 10900, so I was doing about 12 million primes per second over the whole 'cluster'. Unfortunately, amazon spot prices went crazy high (higher than the normal instances in some cases), and made the whole thing unprofitable :-(.

stevenz

2802 posts

Uber Geek

#951326 12-Dec-2013 23:57

The linux client is consistantly significantly quicker than the Windows one using the same commandline. Linux just hit 47000PPS, Windows was only around the 35000 mark.

Under Windows I'm using the 4.0f2 beta version. Haven't tried the AVX variant, whatever that may be.

Have left both jhprimeminer versions running as well as the original. Will do some comparisons tomorrow and see what's what.

Fun! :)

@KnightNZ

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