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#325749 2-May-2010 11:14

shermanp: I've tried several runs with both 1.0.8 and 1.0.15 and they have all finished within a few seconds of each other.

However I am on satellite which is more reliable than terrestrial. Could you try a run with 1.0.15 with the last frequency first to see if it's the frequency that is giving problems or the fact it is the third one.

Don't bother posting the log, just let me know the result.

Steve

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#325764 2-May-2010 12:17

giggles: It appears from the logs provided that you also didn't run the two versions at the same time. 1.0.8 was run before 1.0.15 (see timestamps).

Again, half way through the second run (1.0.15) the version information changes (see '20:05:45:090 DII Message version change - removing modules') and the collector starts collecting the blocks again. If both versions had run simultaneously I would expect the same to occur in 1.0.8 (as Steve said - no collection code changed).

DSMCC / MHEG5 standards provide for the source transmission to issue updates and change the DSMCC version number accordingly. Thus we need to re-read the data blocks.

BTW - running this test at the top of the hour is a bad time anyway as this is when the change is MOST likely to occur. Eg. One program finishes, EPG updates with the next program on the end and removes to one that just finished. You will find most version changes occur half way through the hour or at the top of the hour.

Hope this makes sense ;-)

I only have one tuner, so can only do one run at a time.

As for the 'removing modules' bit, if I increase the timeout to say 600 (from 300) it keeps recieving this after a certain period of time and it never gets anywhere (basically, without the timeout, would keep going in an infinate loop...).

SJB: It doesn't appear to be frequency related. I did a run through of each frequency induvidually and each one completed without errors.

I then added a second frequency to the mix (a different order from the original too) and I got the 'D11 message recieved' on the second frequency (first one completed quickly and successfully).

To make sure, I changed the two frequencies again, and did another run through. Again, the first frew on the list completed quickly without errors. Again, the second frequency went much slower and eventually got the 'D11' message.

I hope this is a bit clearer as to what's going on.

JontyB

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#325769 2-May-2010 13:05

Hey Guys another sucess report for Freeview

OS: win7 x64
TV Card: Nova T 500
Program: MediaPortal 1.1.0 RC1
Version: 1.0.15
Location: Christchurch (Sugarloaf)

imported by xmltv plugin on TV Server side. updated out to 7 days

one note: defaulted to drop the .xml to c:/Program Files/Team Media Portal/ etc, as i am running x64 OS should it have not gone to C:/Program Files (x86)/Team Media Portal/etc (was the default mediaportal install directory)

was easy enough fixed by changing the filepath in the .ini though, after getting the Code 5 error first run

but anyway, thanks heaps guys, love the work :)

SJB

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#325796 2-May-2010 14:46

shermanp: Stick with 1.0.8 for the time being.We are investigating a change which would mean only needing to collect data from a single frequency anyway.

Steve

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#326125 3-May-2010 17:15

I been using this for a week now and it works perfectly well done guys and thanks for the hard work.

FUBARnz

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#326130 3-May-2010 17:27

Been using for a week now on terrestial tv, works perfactly, based in Napier. Only one problem is that tuners can't be used at same time as running programe but not major issue

giggles

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#326134 3-May-2010 17:43

FubarNZ: Can't get around that one :-)

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grahamm34

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#326135 3-May-2010 17:58

Hi guys

Have just installed and configured, worked perfectly on freeview HD in Christchurch no need to rely on webscrapers or sites hosting the epg data and therefore don't need to worry about loosing my epg thanks to a certain provider.

Keep up the good work.

p.s. Have you thought about donations.

dontpanic42

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#326140 3-May-2010 18:17

I haven't yet tried this piece of software out, but I have been following this thread for a while now. Sounds like it is working very well.

Can I suggest that you pitch this to the likes of Sony for use in their Play TV. I have a Play TV unit myself. Although it is pretty damn good as it is now, it would be even better if you could use it to schedule recordings using an eight day EPG.

I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to port for use in the PS3 firmware.

Just a suggestion.

Good work guys!!

thekiwi

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#326333 4-May-2010 11:05

SJB: The references I have tracked for FlashForward are as follows

Wed April 4 series = crid://tvnz.co.nz/1008270 episode = crid://tvnz.co.nz/10163206
Sat April 7 series = crid://tvnz.co.nz/1008270 episode = crid://tvnz.co.nz/10163206
Wed April 11 series = crid://tvnz.co.nz/1008270 episode = crid://tvnz.co.nz/10163207

I'm thinking we can just use the number on the end and take a (small) risk that TV3 for example don't go and use a number used by TV1. They are probably assigned by the individual broadcasters.

Noticed this for MythTV
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/434384?page=last

From the data I've seen, they are only using CRIDs with scheme
authority (SA) and the event identifier (EID). I've not see any
instance identifiers in the data. As for how they are mapped, from
what I can tell, they are just unique ids created by the SA. Since
each channel has it's own SA, there is no correlation of encoding
schema. Thankfully, four channels share the same SA (tvnz.co.nz,
1,2,6, and 7). So as long as the same show stays on the same SA, you
shouldn't get duplicates. However, if the same show appeared on a
different SA, it would be issued another EID by that SA. And they are
completely different in their conventions too.

SJB

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#326343 4-May-2010 11:16

As we output an XMLTV file I think there may be another reason for only using the numbers on the end of references.

The XMLTV spec uses a 3 part number for the standard program reference in the format series ref . program ref . part ref

The parts are separated by a '.' so any conversion program that uses an XMLTV file would not work if the series, program or part ref also contained a '.' as the do for a full CRID.

The currently released version (1.0.15) has an option you can try to see if CRID's will work. Add Option:CRIDN to the ini file and it will output the reference numbers to the XMLTV file. It's worth a try to see if MP or MC for example can use them.

thekiwi

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#326380 4-May-2010 12:00

SJB: As we output an XMLTV file I think there may be another reason for only using the numbers on the end of references.

The XMLTV spec uses a 3 part number for the standard program reference in the format series ref . program ref . part ref

The parts are separated by a '.' so any conversion program that uses an XMLTV file would not work if the series, program or part ref also contained a '.' as the do for a full CRID.

The currently released version (1.0.15) has an option you can try to see if CRID's will work. Add Option:CRIDN to the ini file and it will output the reference numbers to the XMLTV file. It's worth a try to see if MP or MC for example can use them.

Ive just run this option and checked the 4TheRecord database.

For the Series "House" it shows
4/05/2010 8:30:00 p.m.
"A high-school senior blacks out during a school field trip and hallucinates repeatedly at the hospital. Meanwhile, Taub complains about his personal life; and Wilson tries to furnish his condo."
Series: 30775
Episode: 284057

11/05/2010 8:30:00 p.m.
'Lockdown'. When the hospital goes into lockdown after a newborn disappears from the nursery, House and his team members must remain where they are. Hugh Laurie directs.
Series: 30775
Episode: 284058

So its being recognised OK by 4TR .... but wonder how it relates to the actual series/episode info of
Series 6
Episode 16 and 17 respectively.

SJB

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#326397 4-May-2010 12:07

The references seem to be arbitrarily allocated so I don't suppose there is any relationship. From what I've seen the episodes seem to increase by 1 each time.

Could you use the series reference as it stands to record a whole series?

1gkar

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#326578 4-May-2010 18:45

Working great for me. Been forced from XMLTVNZ as the scraped TVNZ site had been modified/removed.

FUBARnz: Been using for a week now on terrestial tv, works perfactly, based in Napier. Only one problem is that tuners can't be used at same time as running programe but not major issue

As I started at the beginning of this thread, I never noticed it straight away, & led to a bit of anxiety as I couldn't get tuner recognised. Maybe info like this could added to the first post.

A big, huge thanks to all involved in this project. Let me know when you have a Paypal link. & let's see the losers attempting to railroad the HTPC fraternity try to get this method of data grabbing "taken down."

I have a simple solution if they do: don't send the MHEG5 data over my roofspace

Silverstone LC14 HTPC Case/Intel E4600 CPU/GA-EP35-DS3 MOBO/Asus EN9500GT graphics/2GB RAM/total 2TB HDD space/HVR-2200 & 2X 150MCE tuner cards/LG GGC-H20L BD Drive/MCE2005/Mediaportal/TVServer 1.1.0Final/LG 55"3D LED-TV/Denon AVR-1803 receiver/X1 projector

giggles

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#327237 6-May-2010 09:37

Hi Guys,

Would really appreciate it if someone with Satellite would like to volunteer to be a tester. We have a new release in testing and need someone else with Satellite to test the new release. Please PM me an email address if you can help.

Expect a new release (v1.0.17) tromorrow which fixes a couple of small issues around exception handling and also a bigger issue around some cards not reporting a 'Signal lock' correctly. Steve has done heaps of work around this issue and looks to have nailed it ;-)

Cheers
Brad

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