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#2387148 8-Jan-2020 07:46

Looks like HDR10+ is not dead yet, Google Play Movies & TV is adding support for HDR10+ 4K titles later this year.

And in other standards news, looks like the HDMI forum is trying to combat shysters pushing non-compliant HDMI 2.1 cables with a mandatory certification programme.

Which won't bother you if you intend to buy a Panasonic OLED next year since it looks like they won't have it. But don't worry @sbiddle, it will still have Filmmaker mode!

The HZ2000 flagship will support Filmmaker Mode with added 'Intelligent Sensing' on top, meaning that the TV can "dynamically adjusts the picture based on ambient light levels" using the built-in light sensors.

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#2387150 8-Jan-2020 07:49

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ShinyChrome:

They also announced their 8K and 4K LCD range, which apart from the new ZH8 sounds like minor improvements over last years lineup.

Maybe they have some tricks up their sleeve for the PS5 launch, suspected later in the year?

I was expecting to see a lot more to do with this, given that supposedly we're going to get an 8K capable console in the same year?

Yeah, as was I. Apparently some of their 4K range is getting HDMI 2.1 via firmware update, but who knows exactly what featureset that encompasses?

There was also a theory about Sony holding back some releases to drop with the PS5 in a mid-year refresh.

Although, maybe their attention is elsewhere at the moment. Does it come with a PS5 that turns it into a giant GT simulator?!?!

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#2387745 9-Jan-2020 08:28

Guess OLEDs are gonna get cheap this year as LG plans to double OLED production and close one of their two LCD plants. I suspect LCD will be gone from the mid-high range by 2021, given that Samsung is also making massive investments in QD-OLED prdouction, starting 2021, by converting existing LCD lines.

With more Chinese brands like Konka and Skyworth looking to enter the global OLED space as well, this could be a race to the bottom beginning.

Oh, and you can now buy your rollable OLED as well, starting from $60k USD

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#2387802 9-Jan-2020 08:41

While OLED panels will no doubt drop in price the one big problem OLED faces is the actual cost of production, and in particular the cost of large panels. 75" + OLED panels simply can't be made for anywhere near the price of LED panels, and the market in the US in particular for large panels is growing.

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#2387815 9-Jan-2020 09:20

sbiddle:

While OLED panels will no doubt drop in price the one big problem OLED faces is the actual cost of production, and in particular the cost of large panels. 75" + OLED panels simply can't be made for anywhere near the price of LED panels, and the market in the US in particular for large panels is growing.

No doubt, and certainly with the delay of ramping up production at their 10.5G plant until 2023, this will probably continue for a little bit for larger panels. Their new 8.5G plant in China (which also had its share of delays) is supposed to be ramping up production this year, which I am guessing they are basing their doubling production claims on. Hopefully the greater supply brings a bit of competition in the lower segments, combined with the rise of Chinese panel manufacturers like BOE.

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#2392257 15-Jan-2020 00:06

this could be a race to the bottom beginning.

That's a real concern. LCDs are extremely durable so long as the power components are good quality. OLED panels wear out and cost cutting may mean the situation doesn't improve any.

LED light bulbs should last 50,000 hours but now few last over 10,000. OLEDs may too become throwaway items that last under 5 years.

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