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1gkar

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#14915 22-May-2005 10:29

Disenchanted,

Freitasm's right. You don't need any special OS in conjunction with a 64 bit processor.

The AMD 64 bit processor separates certain processes for increased speed & multitasking. However, no real apps or games have yet been designed to make use of the CPU's abilities. Mutlimedia is where the benfits are most evident at present, like using fDDShow for improving HDTV content & upscaling DVDs/DivX to HDTV resolutions.

Try watching an HDTV trailer on a less powerful CPU, it's like watching a video stream on dialup.

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#14921 22-May-2005 11:50

so i can get a 64bit mobo and cpu - standard xp pro - and get some benefit when doing high demand tasks?

1gkar

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#14922 22-May-2005 12:36

Yes. That's correct.

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#14923 22-May-2005 12:44

hang on.. can someone explain this to me..

you're running MS windows, compiled for a 32bit machine, but running on a 6bit machine..

surely that's a cludge? what's the point of the 64bit processor - would seem you're not actaully using what you paid for.

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#14924 22-May-2005 13:51

Taniwha,

All I said was you could run a 32 bit OS with a 64 bit processor. I didn't say you would maximise its output. And, as stated earlier, the apps available are minimal. It has always been the case: hardware being produced with no software to avail its abilities until the likes of Doom3 & Halo 2 were released.

Besides, maximising your bang for buck has never been a prerequisite for a PC purchase. How many people & businesses run 500mhz+ machines for only word processing & internet?

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#14925 22-May-2005 15:36

You could always try 64bit Linux.

But I doubt thats an option.

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#14926 22-May-2005 15:58

gkar - i wasn't suggesting you were wrong, just wanted some clarification - i'm only just dabbled in windows for many years.

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#14927 22-May-2005 17:01

lol - i dabbled in linux for ages - even used it as my only OS for about 6 months - tried Fedora Core 1 and Mandrake 9 then 10.

Just doesnt quite cut it for me in ease of use.

I was going to buy a Mac Mini instead of the PC i just built, but didnt - dont know why. Maybe next time round. Mac is starting to look pretty attractive to me (have never even used one, but have been looking in the shops for a year or so now)

XP is nice to use, does not crash on me (unless I overclock my 2800+ another 500mhz and dont increase the vCore :-)

The only major problem I have with MS lately is trying to re-activate Office Pro after ghosting to a new HDD (only Office required activation - not Xp). The confirmation codes they give me wont work, and they said to uninstall the product, reinstall and try again - still no luck, so now I have to call tech support - not open on Weekends.

Even if they do help me - I have officially switched to Thunderbird for email.

When Office wanted re-activation, it didnt give me any notice or warning before restricting functionality - no send/forward/reply on email for a start.

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#14928 22-May-2005 17:07

XP will crash if you don't treat it right. install a few buggy freeware apps - and it's your own fault it's unstable.

but for me, the reason i'm using the FOSS is availability. I'm almost ready to ditch the palm os too, because of the constant need to get out my credit card and register applications. The other alternative is piracy, which i don't scorn, but i don't encourage either.

if i want an application for my linux box, in most distros one command will find, download and install it for me, and i don't need to open my wallet.

that's the one reason that keeps dragging me back to linux.

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#14929 22-May-2005 17:21

I have no problems with XP & freeware - I research pretty carefully before I install new software, I have never had known spyware or viruses from software. - Worst I get is cookies. (Which dont bother me much).

>but for me, the reason i'm using the FOSS is availability. I'm almost ready to ditch the palm >os too, because of the constant need to get out my credit card and register applications. >The other alternative is piracy, which i don't scorn, but i don't encourage either.

I used to have nothing but pirated software (incl OS and Office Productivity) - I used to prefer a pirated program to a freeware thing that performed the same function. Thrill of the chase i think. Zero pirated software now.

>if i want an application for my linux box, in most distros one command will find, download >and install it for me, and i don't need to open my wallet.

Thats what I liked about Linux - always software somewhere to do what you want (for free).

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#14933 22-May-2005 18:25

Taniwha,

I didn't take it that way at all. I was just clarifying my previous post which was ambiguous ;-)

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