new panasonic TV - soooo disapointed....

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#1341370 11-Jul-2015 21:56

Something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Multi-functional-Converter-Support-Surround/dp/B004K61QAS

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#1341454 11-Jul-2015 22:58

Or this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/YPbPr-Component-Video-VGA-AV-CVBS-to-HDMI-Scaler-Converter-Supporting-HDCP-Full-HD-1080P-3D/32236849154.html

Doubtful there is a huge market for it, but there are several similar devices available.

the only thing I have used in a conference room to drive projectors was way flasher. It had a memory in it that would show a logo on the screens on demand for blanking out what was happening on the PC and also let you do PiP with a document camera or presenter camera, and do those things side by side etc. It wasnt a full on video production machine like a tricaster or similar, just a several input DVI box with basic controls to blank it, choose inputs etc.

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#1341527 12-Jul-2015 11:18

JimmyH: I am actually surprised that no one has trued to cater for that market by releasing an box with a ton of legacy ports in (multiple composite, component, VGA), a remote control, and HDMI out.

There's probably a good market for that. Not all of which is cheap-ass people with old equipment. Some will be gamin enthusiasts who want to keep old kit connected. Plus, for instance, I know businesses that still spec VGA for new displays/projectors in conference rooms, to ensure that anyone who turns up with a laptop etc for a presentation can deliver it. People in both of these markets would presumably pay a reasonable sum for a solution, and I would have thought there was enough for a niche.

(And yes, I know there are individual converters available, but one that added the lot, plus a couple of extra HDMI ports for good measure, would be quite useful. I also know done HT amps will do this, but I'm talking abut a straight all-in-one converter box).

Boxes for conference rooms will typically be HD Base-T solutions with both HDMI and VGA connections at the input / output - these are wall or desk mounted and make big amplifier boxes somewhat redundant...

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#1341664 12-Jul-2015 16:42

bfginger: Something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Multi-functional-Converter-Support-Surround/dp/B004K61QAS

Yes. I didn't know these were around. That is an interesting bit of kit. Thanks for the info.... I'm just figuring out how to do a bit of a re-cabling exercise myself, and I may even buy one.

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#1341683 12-Jul-2015 17:19

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#1342496 13-Jul-2015 18:38

^^^

Yes, I understand that.

I'm more interested in connecting some legacy AV kit and consoles than a VGA connector, which is the one port that I will personally never use.

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#1342501 13-Jul-2015 18:58

JimmyH: ^^^

Yes, I understand that.

I'm more interested in connecting some legacy AV kit and consoles than a VGA connector, which is the one port that I will personally never use.

For old consoles you probably want an old CRT TV, it will probably look terrible on a large HD tv

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#1342519 13-Jul-2015 19:49

frequently the old stuff doesnt even output a properly formed interlaced video signal so it really freaks out deinterlacers in TVs

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#1342609 13-Jul-2015 21:56

joker97: .....vinyl came back because people want to pay money for it and like old character sound.

i am not sure if there will be a group of loaded VGA-philes who will splash $1000 for a gold plated VGA cable

VGA-Philes. LOL.

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#1345781 16-Jul-2015 20:55

We have a tendency to be far less tolerant of poor video signal and final image quality in comparison to audio quality, especially when combined together.

Video devices that support VGA are legacy in themselves, the few devices that support legacy currently, like many of the AV receivers support true video pipelines, component and composite, the more advanced video processing devices like the Lumagen Radiance line up do much the same, but the new prototype 4k processors in beta now are going to be HDMI only.

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#1345788 16-Jul-2015 21:03

I dont know about that. The default sharpness setting on most TVs is whack, and people leave it set to that and have the halos around text etc and seem to think that it is fine. Crap video is pretty well accepted by people.

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#1345960 17-Jul-2015 09:37

One thing that bothers me about this discussion is the implication that customers *should* prefer HDMI over VGA or something else modern over something else legacy because the one is new and better and the other is old. For me the issue is not which is better quality, or more up to date, or whatever, but customer choice. If I am the one paying the money, and I want VGA, why shouldn't I be able to get it? I don't care if HDMI is better or more modern. VGA happens to suit my specific requirements better.

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#1345970 17-Jul-2015 09:41

That's good. Pay the money and buy a tv with vga on it.

You act as if every tv should have it because it suits you more.

A vast majority of people don't connect a pc to their tvs so why should all tvs have that option?

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#1346013 17-Jul-2015 10:08

Rikkitic: One thing that bothers me about this discussion is the implication that customers *should* prefer HDMI over VGA or something else modern over something else legacy because the one is new and better and the other is old. For me the issue is not which is better quality, or more up to date, or whatever, but customer choice. If I am the one paying the money, and I want VGA, why shouldn't I be able to get it? I don't care if HDMI is better or more modern. VGA happens to suit my specific requirements better.

Customer choice kinda disappeared in the race-to-the-bottom that is the modern TV market...
Sharp panels still have VGA ports, but as Intel etc have stopped supporting VGA (sunset period ended 2013 from memory??) - then the TV manufacturers have just followed the trend set by the PC market.
People will still want component / SCART / S-Video etc... but do people want to pay to get this?

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#1346077 17-Jul-2015 10:51

Rikkitic: One thing that bothers me about this discussion is the implication that customers *should* prefer HDMI over VGA or something else modern over something else legacy because the one is new and better and the other is old. For me the issue is not which is better quality, or more up to date, or whatever, but customer choice. If I am the one paying the money, and I want VGA, why shouldn't I be able to get it? I don't care if HDMI is better or more modern. VGA happens to suit my specific requirements better.

I hate to be the bringer of bad news but technology changes. just because one (or two) percent of users want to retain legacy support doesn't mean the other 90 odd percent want to pay for it...

Legacy technology gets phased out - take floppy discs for example...

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