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#326425 4-May-2010 12:41

acetone: I agree. There needs to be a plan for say 200gigs which doesn't cost one million dollars.

Not a good idea. People will aim to download every byte of 200Gb and will complain if they don't get it. Just ask WorldxChange how their torrent plan with a 75Gb cap is going.

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#326450 4-May-2010 13:18

That argument is fairly moot, Big Time currently has no limit and there are people downloading in TB's per month.

A soft cap of 200GB could actually be an improvement if it let Telecom ease back on aggressive shaping rules that impact gaming and general http, ftp, etc imo.

Doesn't sound like an option they can consider given how the plan is marketed as "unlimited" though.

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#326457 4-May-2010 13:39

Even if it had a soft cap of 200GB it far exceeds any other plan in terms of price and value in New Zealand. I think it would have been a much smarter move.

I would have jumped on a 200GB soft cap just as I did an unlimited cap if it was the other way around.

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#326459 4-May-2010 13:44

Ragnor: That argument is fairly moot, Big Time currently has no limit and there are people downloading in TB's per month.

A soft cap of 200GB could actually be an improvement if it let Telecom ease back on aggressive shaping rules that impact gaming and general http, ftp, etc imo.

Doesn't sound like an option they can consider given how the plan is marketed as "unlimited" though.

You really think there are people downloading TB's per month?

What the heck are they downloading? I mean lets assume they are download movies... tv programs.. games etc... there just arent that many releases each month...??

Are they running out and buying a tb drive each month too? do they have server farms or something? :)

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#326461 4-May-2010 13:49

A friend of mine has an old computer connected only to power and Ethernet in the corner ripping torrents all day and all night on an ADSL 2+ connection.

You can easily pull over 1TB. Not sure about 2.

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#326463 4-May-2010 13:51

Kilack:
Ragnor: That argument is fairly moot, Big Time currently has no limit and there are people downloading in TB's per month.

A soft cap of 200GB could actually be an improvement if it let Telecom ease back on aggressive shaping rules that impact gaming and general http, ftp, etc imo.

Doesn't sound like an option they can consider given how the plan is marketed as "unlimited" though.

You really think there are people downloading TB's per month?

What the heck are they downloading? I mean lets assume they are download movies... tv programs.. games etc... there just arent that many releases each month...??

Are they running out and buying a tb drive each month too? do they have server farms or something? :)

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#326464 4-May-2010 13:51

Kilack:
Ragnor: That argument is fairly moot, Big Time currently has no limit and there are people downloading in TB's per month.

A soft cap of 200GB could actually be an improvement if it let Telecom ease back on aggressive shaping rules that impact gaming and general http, ftp, etc imo.

Doesn't sound like an option they can consider given how the plan is marketed as "unlimited" though.

You really think there are people downloading TB's per month?

What the heck are they downloading? I mean lets assume they are download movies... tv programs.. games etc... there just arent that many releases each month...??

Are they running out and buying a tb drive each month too? do they have server farms or something? :)

Supreme commander 2 on its own cost 18GB.... every time it updates it seems to burn another 2GB

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#326467 4-May-2010 13:59

Yes I think there are people doing TB's, probably downloading things like: 15GB Blueray 1080p rips or 50GB Blueray images using undisclosed tricks to get around shaping.

Undoutably they are probably buying new hdd's all the time for their NAS, 1TB drives are not much over $100ish - not very expensive.

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#326472 4-May-2010 14:09

He has about 9TB over all storage wise. It isn't just for BigTime though....Obviously.

Is ANYONE else having trouble with TVNZ right now?

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#326475 4-May-2010 14:11

If you want to see something extreme here's a build log of a 100TB home media server
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1512972

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#326488 4-May-2010 14:49

Yea its possible if you download Blueray stuff, at 50Gb per movie.

18 Blueray ISO movies and you have a Tb easy.

Downloading them on the shaping is a different story.

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#326502 4-May-2010 15:23

Hypothetically, assuming Bittorrent traffic is not affected by the current HTTP cap during the 2am-9am period:

24mbit download = 10.8GB/hour download

* 2am - 9am unshaped = 75.6GBs

* 30 days in a month = 2268GB/month

+ 1mbit upload = .45 GB/h upload

* 7 hours unshaped = 3.15GBs

*30 days in a month = 94.5

Torrenting @ 7 hours a day fullspeed = 2362.5GBs a month.

Add to that any HTTP surfing and that's over 2GBs

Of course, that's ideal situations, unless your right next door to the exchange it's unlikely, not to mention the ratio imbalance between DL and UL for torrenting. But it proves it's possible. If you've managed to get around the HTTP shaping and are getting from HTTP sites, it could even be more.

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P.S. That is just a mathematical exercise, there is no way in hell I could even dream of those sorts of monthly usage!

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#326530 4-May-2010 15:56

crazed:
Downloading them on the shaping is a different story.

Sure, but those pulling down that kind of data know their way around the shaping.

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#326533 4-May-2010 16:11

crazed: Yea its possible if you download Blueray stuff, at 50Gb per movie.

18 Blueray ISO movies and you have a Tb easy.

Downloading them on the shaping is a different story.

And in reality there AREN'T 18 movies a year worth watching =)

Realistically there's only 3-4 movies a year worthy of Gold Class.

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#326535 4-May-2010 16:15

Yeah thats my point, while yes you could download tb's, the reality is that you must be just filling up your drives with crap. People that go buy 10 gb of storage then feel they have to fill that up to justify the cost so it gets loaded up with crap they will probably never watch etc.

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