Does Telecom 'cripple' Nokia phones?

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#529956 6-Oct-2011 10:57

Just to reconfirm - I am a part of the Device customisation and testing process in my normal day job. I can tell you that we do not downgrade the specs of Nokia (or any other make) devices.

Not sure why we would, because it would be in our customers best interest to make the phone go awesomely well.

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#529957 6-Oct-2011 11:00

Nokia already do a pretty good job of crippling their phones with a crummy OS. They don't need any help from Telecom.

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#529978 6-Oct-2011 11:32

NonprayingMantis: Nokia already do a pretty good job of crippling their phones with a crummy OS. They don't need any help from Telecom.

But can your smartphone last longer than 24 hours without needing to be charged? :)

I always find it hard to choose between my 10 hour max life time Android which has everything I need, and my lasts for 4-5 days without charge Nokia candy bar which would be really useful a lot of the time in my smartphone.

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#529979 6-Oct-2011 11:34

BarTender:
NonprayingMantis: Nokia already do a pretty good job of crippling their phones with a crummy OS. They don't need any help from Telecom.

But can your smartphone last longer than 24 hours without needing to be charged? :)

I always find it hard to choose between my 10 hour max life time Android which has everything I need, and my lasts for 4-5 days without charge Nokia candy bar which would be really useful a lot of the time in my smartphone.

Personally I don't mind charging my phone every night. It sits by my bed anyway, so plugging it in is no hassle at all.

ETA: and my old Nokia E75 needed charging every day anyway, and it still had the crummy OS.

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#529997 6-Oct-2011 11:49

I keep my handsets on the charger during the day, next to me at night... If I really needed to save battery (an emergency for example) I would start by turning off mobile data access, sync and other stuff. And the phone itself.

If it's not an emergency, keep it charged.

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#530028 6-Oct-2011 12:26

freitasm: I keep my handsets on the charger during the day, next to me at night...

Horses for courses.

Some of us are away from charging options for extended periods so battery life is important.

From all accounts Symbian generally gives better battery life than most OS's, though there are exceptions.

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Nokia already do a pretty good job of crippling their phones with a crummy OS

As for being a "crummy OS", I rather suspect you really mean UI. Symbian OS works very well and is very stable and doesn't require a plethora of custom ROM's as there is with Android. The UI on the other hand is not a flashy as the likes of Android or iOS but even then that is a very subjective opinion and depends on personal preference.

Have you bothered to look at the new UI that Symbian Anna and Belle provide?

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#530041 6-Oct-2011 12:45

Technofreak:
freitasm: I keep my handsets on the charger during the day, next to me at night...

Horses for courses.

Some of us are away from charging options for extended periods so battery life is important.

From all accounts Symbian generally gives better battery life than most OS's, though there are exceptions.

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Nokia already do a pretty good job of crippling their phones with a crummy OS

As for being a "crummy OS", I rather suspect you really mean UI. Symbian OS works very well and is very stable and doesn't require a plethora of custom ROM's as there is with Android. The UI on the other hand is not a flashy as the likes of Android or iOS but even then that is a very subjective opinion and depends on personal preference.

the UI is an integral part of the OS, so I mean exactly what I say.

Have you bothered to look at the new UI that Symbian Anna and Belle provide?

last Nokia I had was E75, so whatever that had was the last one I used. It was crummy.

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#530091 6-Oct-2011 13:53

NonprayingMantis:
the UI is an integral part of the OS, so I mean exactly what I say.

Not always, the SPB shell I use on my 5800 vastly changes the UI yet still uses the original OS in the phone.

NonprayingMantis:
last Nokia I had was E75, so whatever that had was the last one I used. It was crummy.

I don't think you are using a fair comparison and not really comparing oranges with oranges.

How did the E75 compare with a non touch screen Android or iPhone? You can't compare because there aren't any non touch Androids or iPhones. The E75 was released 2 1/2 years ago, try comparing it with other non touch phones.

The world (including Nokia believe it or not) has changed a lot in the last 2 1/2 years.

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#530155 6-Oct-2011 15:15

Forgive me if I've gone "off topic" here but having read thru it kind of wanders anyway.

So

I'm looking to buy a Galaxy S2 which will be used on the XT network. My current phone is a Motorola Milestone (Telecom sourced). All the world (bar NZ and Israel?) got the 2.2 upgrade for this phone. As far as I'm concerned Telecom's version of Android 2.1 for the Milestone meant that it wasn't up-gradeable. That sounds like crippling to me.
As a consequence I'm very reluctant to buy my S2 from Telecom (or Vodafone truth be known). When I ask retail staff what changes to the stock ROM Telecom have made I get blank stares.

Comments please

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#530199 6-Oct-2011 16:01

kevinrikys: Forgive me if I've gone "off topic" here but having read thru it kind of wanders anyway.

So

I'm looking to buy a Galaxy S2 which will be used on the XT network. My current phone is a Motorola Milestone (Telecom sourced). All the world (bar NZ and Israel?) got the 2.2 upgrade for this phone. As far as I'm concerned Telecom's version of Android 2.1 for the Milestone meant that it wasn't up-gradeable. That sounds like crippling to me.
As a consequence I'm very reluctant to buy my S2 from Telecom (or Vodafone truth be known). When I ask retail staff what changes to the stock ROM Telecom have made I get blank stares.

Comments please

Thanks

You make a very good point. This problem isn't peculiar to Android or Telecom. It is a most frustrating experience for the end user. I don't know why Telcos piss off their customers like this. The manufacturer announces an update but some poor unsuspecting phone owners never get to experience the advantages brought with the update, or if they do, it takes so long they have probably bought another phone is disgust.

Why do Telcos have to do this, setting themselves up as the de facto owner of the phone and deciding what's best for the phones owner. It's one reason why I like having an unbranded phone, it works perfectly well plus it comes without the interference that comes from the Telco.

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