Incoming calls on my landline won't ring the telephone handset bell

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#2861361 3-Feb-2022 16:57

freitasm:
I don't know why the surprise. Installed a door opener to a shed in in-law's place. Yes, there's a cord you can pull to disable it but the cord is from inside. If there's a power cut then there's no way to pull the roller door up since you can't disable it from outside and no other access to the shed.

You can have an external lock barrel connected to the release cord. Unlock, pull barrel out of door until release trips.

The manual release can be a security risk. It can be possible to fish for the pull cord with a length of wire shoved over the door.

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#2861400 3-Feb-2022 18:30

Feel free to open it! 😆

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#2861411 3-Feb-2022 19:00

And do these fancy garages have any internal access ?

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#2861412 3-Feb-2022 19:06

decibel:

And do these fancy garages have any internal access ?

Nope! They are boxed. But they do have electrically heated paveways. 😅

Maybe I have to give you the context (again), that in GER we statistically experience power outages not longer than 11 mins in average and an occurance of maybe 3 times a year max. But this time it wasn‘t planned to be a little bit more than an hour for the guys in a rush to their offices to earn the fuel for their fancy cars.

I think it‘s enough of those strange electric garage door openers and we should go back to topic. :-)

P.S. I‘m not sure but it could be that there is a maintenance access or power inlet flap from the roofside. For me the garages look more like a vault for expensive things. Even the door elements are made of steel, not aluminium. I don‘t know and luckily I don‘t need to because it‘s not mine.

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#2861434 3-Feb-2022 20:27

Lets be clear, garage door openers are Waaaaaayyyyyyy off topic to the original post, please move on.......................................\

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#2861440 3-Feb-2022 20:33

So let me see if I fully understand this -

These homes are in Germany where the winter temperature can get down to -5 degrees, there is no internal access to the home so you have to get out of your warm car (into a nice garage) then go back out into freezing weather, go around the back of the garage to get to the front door? And you often do this while carrying your weekly groceries.

I thought German people were very efficient?

It doesn't matter how often you have a power failure if it is foul weather outside when it does go off.

I'm sorry - there is some useless architect involved here and a gullible house buyer.

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#2861441 3-Feb-2022 20:34

cyril7:

Lets be clear, garage door openers are Waaaaaayyyyyyy off topic to the original post, please move on.......................................\

I just side-mentioned it - you started the whole debate about it. 😇

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#2861445 3-Feb-2022 20:44

decibel:

… the winter temperature can get down to -25 degrees, …

I thought German people were very efficient?

I'm sorry - there is some useless architect involved here and a gullible house buyer.

Can‘t help you with stereotypes. But maybe you would think different if you‘d live here what the reasons are for what behavior. In the mean time, you‘d proceed to buy German engineered goods from Bosch, Miele, Siemens, Porsche, Daimler, Fritz! (AVM) and a whole bunch of others please.

And worse than that: the garages are on the opposite side of the homes - you have to cross the private street, what a pitty! In compensation for this, you have a scenic view to your car from the livingroom (I assume and when it is not locked into the garage due to power cut). 🤡

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#2861476 3-Feb-2022 23:13

decibel: I thought German people were very efficient?

German design is efficient. German people are civilized. No civilized person wishes to park a car inside a house. One does not wish to live above a stable. Parking cars in houses is one of the worst ideas ever imo.

Anyway, back to fixing phones. Original poster, did you get all the answers? ; )

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#2863019 7-Feb-2022 13:35

Mikey377:
wow, really helpful thank you. My set up is as follows:

RJ45 wall socket, then an adaptor which allows a Telequip DSL381 (ADSL filter) to plug into, then a 431A plug connected to the phone.

If I buy the BT phone ringing adaptor you mention will that resolve my problem, plugged in after the ADSL filter and before the phone?

Yes Plug the ringing adapter into the ADSL filter then the phone into the Ringing Adapter.

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#2884495 10-Mar-2022 16:42

Have managed to buy a Dynamix BTRJ45M adaptor for $5, and hey, my phone now works and rings on incoming calls. However, in order to do this i had to take out the ADSL in line filter (Telequip DSL 381), as this has only two wires on the incoming line, and hence no ring. Do I actually need this filter? My ADSL broadband seems ok without it. Is there another filter I can buy which has the requisite number of wires which would allow my ringer to work?

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#2884590 10-Mar-2022 22:30

You need the filter or a central splitter. Your problem is the filter has a BT socket for the phone and the adapter to give 3 wire output has an RJ 45 plug. When you unplug the ADSL filter where are you connecting the RJ45 plug on the Dynamix device? The Modempak version has a BT plug. The 3rd wire originates in the adapter you plug into the filter, you just need one with the right plug.

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#2886514 15-Mar-2022 13:30

Many thanks for your response. I have not replaced the filter, and both phone and internet seem fine. This phone is used only rarely, so I am hoping my ADSL will struggle on without the filter! At 8Mbps we just about manage; we are in the sticks so no wireless service or fibre...ADSL or nothing (I can't afford Starlink).

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#2886535 15-Mar-2022 14:17

The plug in filter is not mandatory, but is recommended. Without a plug in filter, you may get some audible hiss on a voice call which the filter normally suppresses. The filter passes the ADSL signal through without touching it so does nothing to the ADSL side of things. You can leave it out as long as the excess noise on a voice call does not bug you.

A wired in master filter is a little different, and in most cases can provide improvement in xDSL performance, but that's a whole different subject.

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#2886599 15-Mar-2022 15:32

I disagree that the filter wouldn't be helping the dsl side of things. It put the off hook phone on the other side of a low pass filter the same as a central splitter would. Mikey377 will be getting away with it because the phone isn't used often.

Mikey377 have a look at the Jaycar BT plug to RJ11 adapter or similar. Although labelled rj11 some look as if the hole would take an rj45 plug just connecting the middle pins. That would allow you to plug the Dynamix adapter into the filter. The filter itself has BT in and out, you didn't say where you found an rj45 to plug into.

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