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#1544496 30-Apr-2016 14:11

Spoke with Vodafone today, sounds like the plan is they will shift us to VDSL and stay there until all the problems with cable incl the docsis 3.1 upgrade has been done. Got a 3 year wait for fibre still so this is the best we can do.

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#1544512 30-Apr-2016 14:55

DjShadow:

Spoke with Vodafone today, sounds like the plan is they will shift us to VDSL and stay there until all the problems with cable incl the docsis 3.1 upgrade has been done. Got a 3 year wait for fibre still so this is the best we can do.

So the solution to Island Bay cable congestion is to stop using it? Not the first time I've heard that from a Vodafone staff member... The DOCSIS 3.1 is due to go ahead June/July, so even if that goes to plan, which is pretty questionable given the last year, a resolution for Island Bay cable congestion is still months away.

You should check out the pricing of VDSL with competitors before accepting the switch. I'm not sure what Vodafone's offering is, but 2degrees have unlimited for $85 per month if you have a mobile on one of their Pay Monthly plans and I'm sure other ISPs have similar deals. Alternatively, you could use the current issues as leverage to get a discounted VDSL connection.

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#1544551 30-Apr-2016 16:48

What about if you're in an area that can't get VDSL? Is it a case of "like it or lump it"?

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#1544560 30-Apr-2016 17:20

quickymart:
What about if you're in an area that can't get VDSL? Is it a case of "like it or lump it"?

There are no other alternatives in Island Bay, so I guess that's all you can do. Either stick with an unreliable connection that's fast off peak, or go with a reliable, but potentially ADSL speed connection. If ADSL is all you can get it's not such an easy choice.

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#1544572 30-Apr-2016 18:13

ramboky:
quickymart:

What about if you're in an area that can't get VDSL? Is it a case of "like it or lump it"?

There are no other alternatives in Island Bay, so I guess that's all you can do. Either stick with an unreliable connection that's fast off peak, or go with a reliable, but potentially ADSL speed connection. If ADSL is all you can get it's not such an easy choice.

@quickymart, yes, that is the option when it comes to reticulated distribution networks and you're stuck on a branch that is overloaded. ramboky's decision was easier with VDSL but if peak hour use is important to you then moving to ADSL2 would be a relatively easy decision for me.

The key issue with the cable connection is that resolution of the issues is uncertain. if I thought resolution was more than the switched contract term for ADSL2 then I would switch asap. If it was half of that contract period then I would probably wait. You're decision.

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#1544575 30-Apr-2016 18:49

Hammerer:

@quickymart, yes, that is the option when it comes to reticulated distribution networks and you're stuck on a branch that is overloaded. ramboky's decision was easier with VDSL but if peak hour use is important to you then moving to ADSL2 would be a relatively easy decision for me.

The key issue with the cable connection is that resolution of the issues is uncertain. if I thought resolution was more than the switched contract term for ADSL2 then I would switch asap. If it was half of that contract period then I would probably wait. You're decision.

I'm on a no-contract plan. Of course that means I was stung with a connection fee, but as you said with VDSL it's an easy choice, given the alternative.

It really is the uncertainty that's the problem. If I knew it was a fixed period of time away I could make an informed decision, but Vodafone themselves don't know how long this mess is going to take to sort out. At this point it's been over a year since the initial issues and over six months since they returned.

I think it's a safe bet that if we'd known in October last year that we'd still be waiting for a resolution in May the following year, most if not all of us would have already switched to another connection.

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#1544578 30-Apr-2016 19:09

ramboky:
quickymart:

What about if you're in an area that can't get VDSL? Is it a case of "like it or lump it"?

There are no other alternatives in Island Bay, so I guess that's all you can do. Either stick with an unreliable connection that's fast off peak, or go with a reliable, but potentially ADSL speed connection. If ADSL is all you can get it's not such an easy choice.

What about 4G options with Spark & Skinny?

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#1544580 30-Apr-2016 19:20

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What about 4G options with Spark & Skinny?

If you're OK with a data cap of 60GB and you're in a good coverage area it's a great choice. I easily get 40Mbs+ over 2degrees 4G at home, I'm assuming Spark will be similar. They have a trial month guarantee too, so there's not much to lose. It's not an option for me because of the cap.

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#1544892 1-May-2016 14:46

Can anything more be done to the nodes (assuming Vodafone has already upgraded all of them)?

Other options I guess could be withdrawing the 100/130mb option and set the max at 50mb

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#1544925 1-May-2016 17:00

A lot of peak time speedtests I see posted in here still don't come anywhere near that figure either.

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#1544928 1-May-2016 17:13

DjShadow:

Can anything more be done to the nodes (assuming Vodafone has already upgraded all of them)?

Other options I guess could be withdrawing the 100/130mb option and set the max at 50mb

They could actually work with the sales team to stop more signups in congested areas and split the congested nodes. Then grow the network at a sustainable rate. I expect the gear is so expensive it isn't cost effective to do this. Indicating to me that they are flogging a dead horse.

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#1544940 1-May-2016 17:34

quickymart:

A lot of peak time speedtests I see posted in here still don't come anywhere near that figure either.

yea but if you half the load on the nodes (essentially what you are doing) then it may alleviate the peak issues that are going on.

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#1545019 1-May-2016 20:39

As of this weekend, we've made the move to the dreaded Island Bay WKH node. While there is clearly something still going on, the internet is actually usable (this is a 50/2 plan):

As an aside, does anyone know what a node actually looks like? Is it something physical? Thank's to @Kodiack's quote a few pages back, I have a slightly malevolent-looking giant Linksys router stuck in my head now.