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  #1644623 3-Oct-2016 11:46
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michaeln:

 

The main cost of providing fixed access services is trenching. The fibre or copper that you put in the ground is less than 10% of the cost of simply digging up the road/field etc..

 

As a very rough budgetary figure, that's about $100/m. If you are 10 metres from the exchange, that's $1,000 just for the trench. If you are 5km down the road, that's half a million dollars. Alas, economies of scale don't really help here. It's not a whole lot cheaper to trench in the country—sometimes it's more expensive. In any case, the greater distances outweigh any savings.

 

If there are 10,000 people at the end of that 5km then it's not too hard to make a case to spend the money. If there is one family, it's somewhat harder.

 

Of course, one you've built this fundamental infrastructure it lasts a very long time, but that still leaves you with the problem of coming up with the funds in the first place.

 

That's why UFB is only building to 80% of the country. It's not that the need isn't there, far from it.

 

Wireless offers a partial solution, but wireless has its own problems—the inverse-square law is not your friend. Neither are mountains, trees, mist, rain and bodies of open water (which particularly affect the high frequency bands you need to get high bandwidth).

 

 

 

 

I heard on the grapevine that in some parts of auckland, when trenching to put in UFB the field guys had to take into account tree roots and not disturbing the street view (Ponsonby? Parnell? yeah....).... meaning tree doctors had to be called in to protect exposes roots and so on.

 

Equally smashing the volcanic rock in Auckland used to be $500/m. Guess it's now gone up to $1000/m because inflation. 

 

Although, I expect Wellington Aerial would be a lot cheaper, even if new poles have required to elevate everything up another 2m..... :-)

 

 

 

Sigh, UFB in my road now slipping to Feb... which will become April.... which will become 2018. Hope docsis 3.1 is worth the noise and the modem does NOT come with 70's faux wood paneling choice...





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  #1644629 3-Oct-2016 11:54
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... I expect Wellington Aerial would be a lot cheaper, even if new poles have required to elevate everything up another 2m ... :-)

 

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The new poles are news to me - where did you hear this?





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  #1644635 3-Oct-2016 12:02
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antoniosk:

 

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... I expect Wellington Aerial would be a lot cheaper, even if new poles have required to elevate everything up another 2m ... :-)

 

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The new poles are news to me - where did you hear this?

 

 

The Chorus technicians doing the work in my street and putting the new poles in some weeks ago...

 

It's not all of wellington, but in some suburbs the poles are too thin, too old or too low, and so they are being replaced with thicker, faster, better and now standing up straight varieties.

 

Have a look around, if you see a leaning pole or a thin one, chances are good it will need replacing - and they all need to be at the same height etc.





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  #1647002 6-Oct-2016 23:50
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Vodafone please, offer a modem with bridge support. Internet this speed should not be distributed via an ISP router. Nor are your clients, who would take up an offer like 1gbit speeds will want this product.

Wireless dates, specially with a 1gbit WAN. This creates multi devices so bridge + Router is fine.

If it can't bridge the first chance I get to move to Chorus UFB I would take up. That would make the whole reinvestment on the Cable network have a very slow return.

Also destroys the chance of a reasonable size business getting recommended by ICT to use the Cable network.


Vodafone, bridge us to the network please - leave our LAN to us.

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  #1656501 23-Oct-2016 09:45
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My provider is also deploying the Huawei-box at the moment. All nodes (~2800) will be converted. One of the big promises is that it scales really well. So I look forward to all the node splits coming up :-)


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  #1656507 23-Oct-2016 10:19
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Kezzainc: Vodafone please, offer a modem with bridge support. Internet this speed should not be distributed via an ISP router. Nor are your clients, who would take up an offer like 1gbit speeds will want this product.

Wireless dates, specially with a 1gbit WAN. This creates multi devices so bridge + Router is fine.  <snio\p>

 

 

Your wish has come true:  wink

 

See Gigabit cable now available

and Technicolour 4400 specs






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