Moving to FibreX

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#1949560 31-Jan-2018 18:29

01EG:
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My advice - drop VF like a hot rock and move up to "real" fibre with another provider

Any suggestion for ISP?

If you just want to get set up and running and make a decision later stuff fibre do a plan that is no contract so no break fees if you decide to change should be good to get going with if you want ultrafast slingshot do a 99 dollar full spèed plan that is one of the cheapest from what I have seen.

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#1949565 31-Jan-2018 18:39

Thanks guys for answers, will try one more time Vodafone to move me to real fibre, if not will move to other ISP.

And one more question, none ISP offers fibre modems, just routers, right? And I need to make some setting on my router if I don't want ISP router?

epr

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#1949581 31-Jan-2018 19:03

01EG: Thanks guys for answers, will try one more time Vodafone to move me to real fibre, if not will move to other ISP.

And one more question, none ISP offers fibre modems, just routers, right? And I need to make some setting on my router if I don't want ISP router?

So you will need 2 devices the ONT (modem device) from chorus or enable and the isp supplied router if you want to use your own router it will need to support vlan tagging depending on your isp. If you use your own router you will get less support from the isp as a general rule.

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#1949616 31-Jan-2018 19:22

epr: So you will need 2 devices the ONT (modem device) from chorus or enable and the isp supplied router if you want to use your own router it will need to support vlan tagging depending on your isp. If you use your own router you will get less support from the isp as a general rule.

Ok, thanks @epr, how I can get a modem from chorus, who offers this device? And I have to connect it to my router as my current connection with vodafone cable modem?

epr

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#1949642 31-Jan-2018 19:28

01EG:
epr: So you will need 2 devices the ONT (modem device) from chorus or enable and the isp supplied router if you want to use your own router it will need to support vlan tagging depending on your isp. If you use your own router you will get less support from the isp as a general rule.

Ok, thanks @epr, how I can get a modem from chorus, who offers this device? And I have to connect it to my router as my current connection with vodafone cable modem?

Having not gone through the process yet maybe others will have a more informed idea but just contact your preferred supplier and tell them you want fibre and they should arrange the ONT install for you a chorus technician will come out and liaise with you about the install location then come and install the device then you get a router from the isp they message you when they are happy and you plug in the device either theirs or yours configured for vlan tagging if necessary and viola internet is go.

epr

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Ultimate Geek

#1949649 31-Jan-2018 19:42

Also vlan info for your router https://www.linksys.com/ca/support-article?articleNum=205502 so it should be able to do it.

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#1949653 31-Jan-2018 19:47

@DarkShadow, can you explain a bit more about VLAN setting on the WAN please? by the way I do not have spare LAN ports, all taken.

VLAN is a button you click, not a physical port. See the post above this for howto.

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#1949663 31-Jan-2018 20:22

epr: Also vlan info for your router https://www.linksys.com/ca/support-article?articleNum=205502 so it should be able to do it.

DarkShadow:
VLAN is a button you click, not a physical port. See the post above this for howto.

Got it, thanks, now I understand

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#1949886 1-Feb-2018 09:52

Hey @01EG, changing from your grandfathered plan would just be a profile/billing change. The change might mean you require a new cable modem, but your set up should work the same as it would if you were staying on the same old cable network, so it should be an easy, straight forward process.

When comparing Coax vs Fiber, Fiber-optic is generally considered more reliable, as cable-internet is more prone to congestion. Fibre Broadband also offers a number of advantages when it comes to consistency and performance, it's not just speed. Better ping, less jitter and no interference from power lines are all benefits of Fibre.

Last year in March, Chorus was the first New Zealand organisation (that we know of) to formalise a commitment with the Commerce Commission to make sure the capacity of our network exceeds demand now and into the future. That means that we guarantee a congestion free network when you're using Fibre services. ^Mike

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#1949939 1-Feb-2018 10:35

Chorusnz:
Hey @01EG, changing from your grandfathered plan would just be a profile/billing change. The change might mean you require a new cable modem, but your set up should work the same as it would if you were staying on the same old cable network, so it should be an easy, straight forward process.

When comparing Coax vs Fiber, Fiber-optic is generally considered more reliable, as cable-internet is more prone to congestion. Fibre Broadband also offers a number of advantages when it comes to consistency and performance, it's not just speed. Better ping, less jitter and no interference from power lines are all benefits of Fibre.

Last year in March, Chorus was the first New Zealand organisation (that we know of) to formalise a commitment with the Commerce Commission to make sure the capacity of our network exceeds demand now and into the future. That means that we guarantee a congestion free network when you're using Fibre services. ^Mike

Thanks Mike, now I'm a bit confused :)

Generally looks like better to have Fibre-optic (in the future) then Coax but in my case it easy to change just a cable modem, even static ip will be the same, right? I think this is working for me, fibre will wait a little bit more :)

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#1949942 1-Feb-2018 10:41

Chorusnz:
Last year in March, Chorus was the first New Zealand organisation (that we know of) to formalise a commitment with the Commerce Commission to make sure the capacity of our network exceeds demand now and into the future. That means that we guarantee a congestion free network when you're using Fibre services. ^Mike

Interesting.

So does this mean each fibre connection is guarenteed 1gbps bandwidth through all infrastructure to the ISP's aggregation point, wherever that might be (hopefully in the cage right next to the fibre switches?)

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#1949945 1-Feb-2018 10:48

antoniosk:

Chorusnz:
Last year in March, Chorus was the first New Zealand organisation (that we know of) to formalise a commitment with the Commerce Commission to make sure the capacity of our network exceeds demand now and into the future. That means that we guarantee a congestion free network when you're using Fibre services. ^Mike

Interesting.

So does this mean each fibre connection is guarenteed 1gbps bandwidth through all infrastructure to the ISP's aggregation point, wherever that might be (hopefully in the cage right next to the fibre switches?)

Chorusnz

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#1949987 1-Feb-2018 11:34

01EG: Thanks Mike, now I'm a bit confused :) Generally looks like better to have Fibre-optic (in the future) then Coax but in my case it easy to change just a cable modem, even static ip will be the same, right? I think this is working for me, fibre will wait a little bit more :)

There's no question in my mind that Fibre is the superior product. At the end of the day you've got to pick what's right for you at the time. I don't want to speculate on how Vodafone sets up there IP pools or the spec's on there cable modem.
I'd just ask them these question.

1) Will I need to be provided with a new cable modem to get the new speeds?

2) Do/Can I keep my static IP when it changes?

3) How much down time will the process take?

You'll be able to make a more informed decision once you've got those questions answered. As I've said though, when it comes to out and out performance and future proofed technology, we do think Fibre is the way to go! ^Mike

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#1949999 1-Feb-2018 11:48

antoniosk: Interesting.

So does this mean each fibre connection is guarenteed 1gbps bandwidth through all infrastructure to the ISP's aggregation point, wherever that might be (hopefully in the cage right next to the fibre switches?)

I don't recall the exact thresholds etc but I think the plan is to keep overall utilisation below 70% at all times, with over 70% being a "fix this now" scenario, and over 90% considered failure.

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#1950015 1-Feb-2018 12:11

antoniosk:

Chorusnz:
Last year in March, Chorus was the first New Zealand organisation (that we know of) to formalise a commitment with the Commerce Commission to make sure the capacity of our network exceeds demand now and into the future. That means that we guarantee a congestion free network when you're using Fibre services. ^Mike

Interesting.

So does this mean each fibre connection is guarenteed 1gbps bandwidth through all infrastructure to the ISP's aggregation point, wherever that might be (hopefully in the cage right next to the fibre switches?)

The short answer is no, that's not guaranteed, but is likely to be delivered.

The below is taken, pretty much verbatim, from the white papers:

The chorus congestion free network applies to the access node and aggregation network, but not to the physical access between the broadband customer and the access node.

Chorus defines a congestion free network as one where all internal network to network interfaces (I-NNIs) average bandwidth, as measured over [15] minutes, is less than [95%] of the I-NNI physical line rate.

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