Cut and remove old Saturn cable

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#2289357 3-Aug-2019 22:03

But it will become your problem if it causes noise on the network, and they will track it down. Trust me, I used to work for Telstra Clear.

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#2289359 3-Aug-2019 22:10

They might have a problem if they have their network on your property without your permission.

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#2289360 3-Aug-2019 22:27

It's an overhead cable, either way I'm not going to cut it down myself

I want it officially removed as I want the overhead fibre to run in its place, or an attachment point next to it. The current overhead copper attachment point isn't in a convenient location whereas the Vodafone HFC one is

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#2289408 4-Aug-2019 08:00

larknz: They might have a problem if they have their network on your property without your permission.

You (or the previous tenant) would have asked to get cable installed, so that would have been giving permission for it to be there.

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#2289409 4-Aug-2019 08:06

But cancelling the contract must revoke the permission.

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#2289411 4-Aug-2019 08:09

dfnt:

I messaged gaddam on Thursday but no response

To be fair he is allowed to have a weekend. I had mine removed in this manner, I received a call to confirm and then a few days later I came home from work to find it gone, no fuss at all.

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#2289430 4-Aug-2019 09:18

larknz: But cancelling the contract must revoke the permission.

Why?

I really struggle with the view you're trying to take. Using your logic power companies, LFC's and Chorus should all come and remove services when a customer cancels their service.

The network is owned by Vodafone. Taking matters into your own hands will likely cause problems, and the fact they are happy to come and remove the cable when contacted means there isn't really any actual issue here.

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#2289449 4-Aug-2019 10:34

I understand where you are coming from and if it easy to arrange the removal, that's fine. But the homeowner shouldn't be able to do anything that would take down the network. If you cancel you should,d be isolated from the network.

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#2289450 4-Aug-2019 10:46

sqishy: Just showing my age here but networks at most work before IP and even before Window 95 (eg Windows 3.1) were 10base2 and when someone pulled the coax out of the computer the whole network died.

That's because those networks were based on a token ring design - and badly implemented, or based on the coax NE1000/NE2000 NIC (and Novel Netware or similar Network OS) and, again, badly implemented.

PhantomNVD: Likely only satellite cable and ‘earth rod’ from the ground?

It's a cable network (either underground or poles), not a satellite service.

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#2289451 4-Aug-2019 10:49

Hi, as mentioned earlier, if you disconnect/cut the cable and suitably protected any conductors to maintain galvanic isolation to the surrounding earth/dirt material (in a manner that was moisture enduring) then I see no reason that you can create an interference issue with the network, this is no different infact of less chance of creating an interference issue than leaving the cable in tact and connected to all the splitters and distribution tails within your home.

If it does create an issue then Vodafone are perfectly capable of tracing it and removing the tap drop in the street without entering your home or property.

HFC networks do have a couple of achilles heels, and unwanted injection of noise from any point of the connected network be it in use or not is one of them, hence they activlly hunt out interference injection points.

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#2289467 4-Aug-2019 11:36

larknz: I understand where you are coming from and if it easy to arrange the removal, that's fine. But the homeowner shouldn't be able to do anything that would take down the network. If you cancel you should,d be isolated from the network.

Well, they shouldn't but it can happen. Anyway, going on your logic when I move out of my address as the incoming tenant didn't give permission for fibre to be installed, the ONT should be ripped out of the wall, to be reinstalled by the next tenant? Is that right?
What about Sky dishes then? I have one at my place that I don't even use - should that be taken down as well? I didn't give permission for it to be installed.

I mean really, come on.

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#2289571 4-Aug-2019 12:53

You have the right to take it down and if you do you wont interfere with the Sky network.

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#2289585 4-Aug-2019 13:32

larknz: You have the right to take it down and if you do you wont interfere with the Sky network.

bit different because its a wireless service

if i take down my power cables it has the possibility of interfering with my neighbors poower

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#2289587 4-Aug-2019 13:34

Jase2985:

larknz: You have the right to take it down and if you do you wont interfere with the Sky network.

bit different because its a wireless service

if i take down my power cables it has the possibility of interfering with my neighbors poower

Unlikely if done correctly, although as for how it affects the neighbors sewer, thats another issue.

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#2290203 5-Aug-2019 14:49

gbwelly:

dfnt:

I messaged gaddam on Thursday but no response

To be fair he is allowed to have a weekend. I had mine removed in this manner, I received a call to confirm and then a few days later I came home from work to find it gone, no fuss at all.

I know, I wasn't having a go, I was merely asking what other people have/had done

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