chorus copper not spark they split years ago

Jase2985:

 

chorus copper not spark they split years ago

 

Note to OP this is not an answer to the question, just a clarification that Spark does not own the copper network, Chorus does.

     >Note to OP this is not an answer to the question, just a clarification that Spark does not own the copper network, Chorus does.<

Ha ha ha , yes, thanks I realise that 😀, I used the telco names for simplification of copper vs. wireless etc.

I'd still like to know how my Vodafone land-line works.

@sbiddle … thank you.

I see that a number of friends and colleagues have recently been taken off the copper and had their 'landlines' replaced with 4G wireless set ups.  I was wondering what Vodafone was planning for us HFC customers.

@cyril7 … OK, so it will be copper/pots for me.

As per @froob, we both want to know what future holds.

Rickles:

 

@sbiddle … thank you.

 

I see that a number of friends and colleagues have recently been taken off the copper and had their 'landlines' replaced with 4G wireless set ups.  I was wondering what Vodafone was planning for us HFC customers.

 

As already mentioned my understanding was all new HFC customers are now CPE based VoIP rather than copper. 

I haven't heard what VF's plans are, but they'll obviously want to decommission their Nortel switch in Petone at some point. Considering how long it's taking them to shut down the old MPEG-2 based cable TV network due to lack of budget, and the fact pretty much everything at VF is on hold due to a lack of budget that probably happen any time soon!

sbiddle:

 

...all new HFC customers...

 

Slight thread divert, I wonder how many people actually connect up to cable these days? I know Chorus connect dozens of properties to fibre every day, but how many people actually connect up to cable now? It's not like they're ever going to expand the network any further - whereas the fibre network is expanding almost every day.

It's unsurprising to me that VF is struggling to maintain their network. Margins on all ISPs are low as it is, but vodafone has to maintain a last-mile network in addition to the usual ISP backend stuff, on the same price point as everyone else. I suppose everyone else pays for their last mile through the LFC charge, but VF is doing it at smaller scale and never got any govt money to get things started.

They've had their cable network in place for around 20 years though, I imagine it's probably paid for itself by now?

quickymart:

 

...  I wonder how many people actually connect up to cable these days?

 

I know Chorus connect dozens of properties to fibre every day, but how many people actually connect up to cable now?  ...

 

Very few, I would imagine.

I'm on "FibreX Max" HFC in a "cable" suburb of Wellington, which is getting fibre late this year.

VF have recently upgraded their cable network here, presumably to reduce the number of defections to "real fibre".

There's a brand-new optical node outside my house - cable performance is now good, and cable is relatively cheap.

I still intend to switch to UFB at the earliest opportunity, for two reasons - to escape from VF, and for a technical upgrade - I'm a geek.

Non-geeks will probably stay with cable - at least for a while.

If they phone VF to ask for an upgrade to UFB, they will probably be talked out of it, or even told that this is not an option.  (VF make more profit with cable as they own the network).

If you want to leave cable, you really need to leave VF.