Wanting a virtual cell phone for iOS and desktop, looking at 2Talk, but SMS costs and functionality unclear.

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Baboon

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#1310249 23-May-2015 03:07

I don't know how I can be any clearer than having already said several times that especially international VoIP apps call all numbers as if they're international, even if one has a local calling plan. Thus the leading zero in area codes used only WITHIN a country on landlines and cells must be stripped out. If the app does not auto-detect leading zeros (and so far I've noticed over the years, only Skype ever did, and no longer does) then any numbers in one's address book with leading zeros in the number's area code are USELESS for said app, and vice versa for numbers without the leading zero used in cell calls or with local calling VoIP apps like 2Talk.

I mean what are you not getting here? Or is it just some kind of general resistance to reality as it is?

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#1310253 23-May-2015 03:43

I don't see why you are putting a zero into the number. It should be entered in international format. +649xxxxxxx. There is no 0 in there as that is the NATIONAL access code. 2talk will accept it with that as they are a NATIONAL carrier. They will also accept it in international format like every other voip provider in existance.

I fully understand how to enter a phone number into an international standards compliant dialer. I have only been doing it for 20 years since I got a motorola 5200 on bellsouth back in 1995.

I don't know how I can be any clearer than having already said several times that especially international VoIP apps call all numbers as if they're international, even if one has a local calling plan.

SO ENTER IT IN THE CORRECT INTERNATIONAL FORMAT

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#1310263 23-May-2015 03:55

I don't know what your confusion is, but you've clearly not understood a word I've written.

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#1310264 23-May-2015 03:58

You have said that you are putting a zero into 2talk and its not works, but you cant put that zero into the other dialers because they dont work.

There is no zero between the +64 and the 9 or the 21 or the 27 or whatever of a phone number.

You should not be putting a zero into any of the sip voip dialers when making a call or sending a SMS.

If im mistaken and you are not putting +64021 into skype and expecting it to work when clearly it will not work then please explain better what you are putting in and what the outcome from that is.

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#1310265 23-May-2015 04:04

"You have said that you are putting a zero into 2talk and its not works"

Nope, I did not.

"but you cant put that zero into the other dialers because they dont work"

Correct, because VoIP apps like Skype and Line, to give two of many examples, treat all numbers as if they're dialed internationally. Thus one must strip the leading zero from national area codes.

"You should not be putting a zero into any of the sip voip dialers when making a call or sending a SMS."

Yet 2Talk requires leading zeroes in NZ area codes.

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#1310266 23-May-2015 04:07

The last two pages aren't great folks. It is completely off topic, if the topic is costs as per subject.

Baboon

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#1310267 23-May-2015 04:08

And functionality! :-)

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#1310274 23-May-2015 04:17

Baboon: Yet 2Talk requires leading zeroes in NZ area codes.

If dialed without the country code. Which should be in your phonebook regardless of what service you are using on a mobile or "virtual mobile" service. No service I am aware of will complete a call to NZ without putting either 0 in or entering the country code manually or selecting it via a dropdown list, which is not needed when you have the number entered in your contacts with the country code on it already.

Anyway, Mauritio is right. I'm out for the cant dial issue, Works for me. Works for everyone else I know who uses 2talk or italk. I wont discuss inability to dial any furthur.

As for the issues with SMS in 2talk, I cant help you on that one as I only use it for voice. I wasnt even aware they had added SMS till recently and have not really had a need to put it to use since hangouts and facebook messenger have taken on most of what I used to use SMS for with smartphones now being ubiquitous. They give me unlimited SMS on all my mobiles and I send about 20 a month.

Be aware that many services that claim to send SMS into NZ will be blocked at the telco level as they are spoofing the sender number. If reliable sending of SMS to NZ numbers is something you need then there are many other threads on that issue where people cant get SMS into NZ using cheap gateway services. The cynical think that it is to push revenue to the comparatively expensive local SMS services. Others will accept that its part of a SMS spam filter.

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