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#56827 4-Jan-2007 08:15

"Who can qualify for Microsoft academic pricing?

Accredited educational institutions (public or private Primary or Secondary schools, vocational schools, correspondence schools, polytechnics, universities, or scientific or technical institutions accredited by associations recognised by the NZQA and/or the NZ Department of Education and/or the Ministry of Education); faculty of accredited educational institutions; administrative offices or boards of education of educational institutions; full and part time matriculated students of higher education institutions.

The following are not eligible to purchase Microsoft academic edition products: non-education customers, primary and secondary students, parents of higher education or primary and secondary students, customers residing outside New Zealand, and students participating in short courses or vocational."

TheBartender: Better yet again...

If your a student, purchase an 'Academic' version, or get a student to do so for ya....

Vista Premium only $174.90 from Ascent

Thats me.

They'd have to be a tertiary student.

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#56838 4-Jan-2007 11:34

freitasm: Er... Have you seen how much is the Mac OS X? And you realise that from 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4 there's no free upgrade and no upgrade price?

Also, yes there are free options. But does it come with support?

Yuck. Well I was kinda meaning the *nix side of things.

As I recall Apple have never been big on 'upgradable' computers. Its interesting now though, since these days Macintosh computers are basically PCs except with an arguably better CPU architecture and operating system. Oh heck, thats right they're using intel CPUs now.

The intel macs are running x86 aren't they? What was wrong with PPC or whatever they were using? I had always thought of x86 as rediculus compared to the alternatives.

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#56850 4-Jan-2007 13:16

And I'm starting to think of you as a troll

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#56851 4-Jan-2007 13:23

This thread was probably doomed from the start with comparsions to Mac OS X eventually coming up.

The topic at hand is Vista pricing. So far on page two, we've seen comparsions to Mac OS X pricing and discussion about different processors types (and what is better).
Guess what one of these two are off topic?

Can we please stay on topic?

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#56853 4-Jan-2007 13:34

cokemaster: Can we please stay on topic?

Ditto.

Also Brad, I am thinking along the same line as you... he's sounding real suspecious like a.... *gulp* troll...

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#56915 4-Jan-2007 20:58

It's just one of the rules of the internet. When somebody creates a Windows thread it must be trolled by Linux/Mac trolls. Funny how you never see it in the Linux threads (Maybe it's because the Windows users aren't the sad position of trying to flog an OS that just isn't ready for the mainstream).

Cokemaster has said it well. Any more posts that do not directly discuss the pricing of Windows Vista and this thread will be locked and I'll be taking names...

Back on topic, The quoted prices are on the high side of what Vista will be launched at.

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#56926 4-Jan-2007 21:49

bradstewart: And I'm starting to think of you as a troll

Dude I'm not trolling. The price of Windows is a very valid point. Have you ever done the math to buy the licences for a room full of Windows computers? It gets into the thousands very, very quickly.
Ya got the Server software, then the licences for the desktops and then the CALs. It takes less keystrokes to call someone a troll than it does to respond to a query.

But anyway with regards to the licencing it does get really confusing. Especially with the technologies put in place for the licencing & the varius schemes. It's quite a consideration and my posts dont belong under a troll bridge thanks.

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#56932 4-Jan-2007 21:58

weblordpepe:
bradstewart: And I'm starting to think of you as a troll
Dude I'm not trolling. The price of Windows is a very valid point. Have you ever done the math to buy the licences for a room full of Windows computers? It gets into the thousands very, very quickly.
Ya got the Server software, then the licences for the desktops and then the CALs. It takes less keystrokes to call someone a troll than it does to respond to a query.

But anyway with regards to the licencing it does get really confusing. Especially with the technologies put in place for the licencing & the varius schemes. It's quite a consideration and my posts dont belong under a troll bridge thanks.

You can't compare the Retail prices I posted, with prices for Microsoft software products that are OEM, Open License and Volume License; or even bring CALs into the equation...

BTW, I look at our school computer rooms and see *FREE* c/o the Ministry of Education and Microsoft.

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#56934 4-Jan-2007 22:07

Yeah you're right thats the other side of the coin. Apple are good like that also with their apples in classrooms stuff that they do. Whether it's a concience or business well who knows but getting computers into classrooms is good any way you cut it.

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#56935 4-Jan-2007 22:17

Going back on topic...

Given the prices of the upgrades, it is unlikely that I will go for it. My needs for my Windows machine is quite limited and Server 2003 serves my needs well.

Additionally most of my work is done on my powerbook which means upgrading is even less unattractive.

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#56937 4-Jan-2007 22:18

I must acknowledge that Apple also supply a software bundle to state schools as well.

Back to my point though, that I think we'll find the OEM pricing for the Vista Editions (with the exception of Vista Ultimate) will probably be close to what you see now for OEM licenses for XP Home, Media Centre Edition and Professional; will be more attractive to consumers, rather than an upgrade version.

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HECK... might as well buy a new PC with it!

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#56939 4-Jan-2007 22:32

lugh: Doesn't an academic version mean you can't do updates as per the following quote from Ascent's FAQs?

Is there any difference between the academic and non-academic versions of software.
The software itself is identical. However, academic versions are usually not upgradeable and are intended for educational use.

Really?....this I did not know, but would this include an operating system?....without updates an operating system could be rendered useless in no time I woulda thought....

I do see the word 'usually' there, implying there are occasions where updates are included, maybe this is the case with an operating system.....will have to enquire...

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#56953 5-Jan-2007 07:27

Notes about the Windows Vista Express Upgrade from the Dell New Zealand web site:

Currently anticipated to be available for shipment only from 21st February 2007.
Register your upgrade and pay any associated costs (via credit card) no later than the deadline of March 31, 2007.

Windows XP Home Edition upgrades to Windows Vista Home Basic @ NZ$68.00 + NZ$40 delivery fee

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 upgrades to Windows Vista Home Premium @ FREE + NZ$40 delivery fee

Windows XP Professional upgrades to Windows Vista Business @ FREE + NZ$40 delivery fee

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#56955 5-Jan-2007 08:26

TheBartender: I do see the word 'usually' there, implying there are occasions where updates are included, maybe this is the case with an operating system.....will have to enquire...

Seeing as the actual software is the same on all the Vista discs and is reliant on the license key to designate the edition for installation, do ya reckon that the academic license key is likely to disable features further? That's one theory being bandied about my department.

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#56958 5-Jan-2007 09:16

Heres a question: Does anyone know what flavour of Vista will be avaiable for us MSDNAA people?

Otherwise it looks like I'll be sticking to XP Pro for a while yet...

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Is there any difference between the academic and non-academic versions of software.
The software itself is identical. However, academic versions are usually not upgradeable and are intended for educational use.