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chakkaradeep
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  #102849 4-Jan-2008 10:27
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ahmad:
I wonder if installing Avast would have increased the boot time (to the point of the logon screen)? But I don't know what Avast would have anything to do with that.


Sometimes, the bootup (atleast from login to desktop) will be longer if you have installed some anti-virus/internet security apps and also depends on the startup programs. Avast may be doing some initializations or some initial scan once you login to your desktop. I am not sure. Best is to see what programs you still have in the startup by typing msconfig from your Run dialog box.




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  #102851 4-Jan-2008 10:32
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chakkaradeep:
ahmad:
I wonder if installing Avast would have increased the boot time (to the point of the logon screen)? But I don't know what Avast would have anything to do with that.


Sometimes, the bootup (atleast from login to desktop) will be longer if you have installed some anti-virus/internet security apps and also depends on the startup programs. Avast may be doing some initializations or some initial scan once you login to your desktop. I am not sure. Best is to see what programs you still have in the startup by typing msconfig from your Run dialog box.

Hi, login to desktop is acceptable now (if you call 1-2 minutes "acceptable").

I was just curious as to why power-on to login increased with a so-called "clean install".

I discovered that taking out the CD that was in my drive dropped startup time by about 8 seconds, but I'm not sure why that should be.

This is the first OS in history that I've gone and sourced a stopwatch for to time tasks...  

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  #102859 4-Jan-2008 10:56
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ahmad:
I discovered that taking out the CD that was in my drive dropped startup time by about 8 seconds, but I'm not sure why that should be.


If you computer is set up to boot from CD/DVD first, and if there is any CD/DVD in the drive, it will check for it, atleast for few seconds and then if its not bootable, it will go to the second boot device which should be your hard drive. If you have Windows Vista boot cd, it will be showing "Press any key to boot from CD/DVD..." and if you havent pressed for some time, it will boot to hard disk.

You can change the setting in the BIOS

Hope that helps




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#102864 4-Jan-2008 11:11
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ahmad:
This is the first OS in history that I've gone and sourced a stopwatch for to time tasks...


aren't you proud of that , lol LaughingWink




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  #102943 4-Jan-2008 18:12
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chakkaradeep:
ahmad:
This is the first OS in history that I've gone and sourced a stopwatch for to time tasks...


aren't you proud of that , lol LaughingWink

Yeah bloody ridiculous tbh! People keep saying "oh your computer's not good enough to run Vista, upgrade this and that".

I argue that if I buy a slightly above average spec'd machine with an OS installed that it should at least be able to run that OS reasonably. That's what I think anyway.

Why doesn't my Firefox inline spellcheck work on Geekzone?

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  #102953 4-Jan-2008 19:04
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Yeah bloody ridiculous tbh! People keep saying "oh your computer's not good enough to run Vista, upgrade this and that".


If you have right software and 1 GB of RAM , Vista behaves fairly well. In my department, I have P4 machines with 1 GB of RAM and they are working good with Vista (I have Vista Business installed in them)

ahmad:
Why doesn't my Firefox inline spellcheck work on Geekzone?


Its not working for me too...not sure why Frown




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  #102959 4-Jan-2008 20:51
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I would consider that a Pentium DC T2080 1.73GHz with 1Gb ram and integrated video (120Gb 5400 hdd) to be a (slightly) above average spec for a new laptop.

If supplied with Vista Basic (as it was) I consider that it should be able to run it properly (it has been running ok since reinstalling windows without all the manufacturer's bloatware, but then again I only use this computer for Firefox which I presume isn't exactly demanding).  

 
 
 

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  #102972 4-Jan-2008 22:15
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ahmad:
If supplied with Vista Basic (as it was) I consider that it should be able to run it properly (it has been running ok since reinstalling windows without all the manufacturer's bloatware, but then again I only use this computer for Firefox which I presume isn't exactly demanding).


I hope you have updated your Vista via Windows Update. Vista becomes good only after those updates. You should be getting around 48 updates or so.




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  #102974 4-Jan-2008 22:37
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Yep, prior to reinstalling the system I used Windows Update to determine which updates were required, then downloaded them 1 by 1 from MS website, and burnt them to a CD.

Then I ran all those updates prior to connecting the new reinstalled system to the internet.

Which raises the question. Does formatting and clean reinstalling the OS get rid of all malware/virii/security holes/breaches?

Basically I took the opinion "I don't need AV or updates at the moment because I'll be formatting and reinstalling. Then I'll start with a clean slate and take all proper precautions".

Flawed thinking?  

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  #103036 5-Jan-2008 13:19
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ahmad:
Which raises the question. Does formatting and clean reinstalling the OS get rid of all malware/virii/security holes/breaches?


Yes, if you do format and reinstall, whatever was there earlier would have gone




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  #103042 5-Jan-2008 14:28
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chakkaradeep:
ahmad:
Which raises the question. Does formatting and clean reinstalling the OS get rid of all malware/virii/security holes/breaches?
Yes, if you do format and reinstall, whatever was there earlier would have gone

Can *anything* remain? Like a special virus type?

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