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  #1558223 23-May-2016 20:51
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Yes, if you come across a win 7 key you have nothing to lose by trying it. I thought I would try an old OEM win 7 pro disk I had here and it upgraded to win 10 with a digital entitlement. 




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  #1558504 24-May-2016 10:33
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I've brought 2 of these keys off ebay over the last couple of years (one was NZD$10, the other $12) and both of them installed and activated no problem.  He's sold like 1100 of them and still going so it seems "legit as".  He did email me to ask if I wanted the hardware shipped so he has that covered.

 

 


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  #1558508 24-May-2016 10:43
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Adamww:

 

I've brought 2 of these keys off ebay over the last couple of years (one was NZD$10, the other $12) and both of them installed and activated no problem.  He's sold like 1100 of them and still going so it seems "legit as".  He did email me to ask if I wanted the hardware shipped so he has that covered.

 

 

$10 does not equal "legit as".





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  #1558604 24-May-2016 13:03
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$10 does not equal "legit as".

 

 

Yes that was only my take at sarcasm... 

 

Basically he is selling the key off a disposed PC, you can even have the PC if you want.  It seems to be common practice with many for sale on ebay - he is just the cheapest.  So is that not legal?


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  #1558652 24-May-2016 13:50
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Adamww:

 

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$10 does not equal "legit as".

 

 

Yes that was only my take at sarcasm... 

 

Basically he is selling the key off a disposed PC, you can even have the PC if you want.  It seems to be common practice with many for sale on ebay - he is just the cheapest.  So is that not legal?

 

 

1,100 of them?  wink





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  #1558813 24-May-2016 16:46
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Adamww:

 

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$10 does not equal "legit as".

 

 

Yes that was only my take at sarcasm... 

 

Basically he is selling the key off a disposed PC, you can even have the PC if you want.  It seems to be common practice with many for sale on ebay - he is just the cheapest.  So is that not legal?

 

 

1,100 of them?  wink

 

 

 

 

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  #1559240 25-May-2016 11:07
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Talkiet:

 

I've inherited a device with a dodgy copy of windows and would like to put a legal copy of Windows on it.

 

....so why are some here advising dodgy purchase options....
He obviously doesnt want another dodgy lic.
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and btw, activation does not in any way mean its legit.
Ive seen plenty of dodgy, pirated lic that had actually activated.

 

Ive even seen obvious pirated Disks from trademe activate (then sometimes de-activate/flag as pirated some months later)

 

OEM COA sticker install keys cannot be re-used on another PC : that is piracy . Lets be blunt about it.


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  #1559620 25-May-2016 20:12
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1101:

 

and btw, activation does not in any way mean its legit.

 

 

 

But it does. At least as far as Windows goes.

 

To the best of my knowledge no one made up a magical "keygen" that can produce legit MS keys. What has been done is *hacking* windows into accepting non genuine keys.

 

If you did not apply any such hacks on purpose and installed from the original Microsoft media, and your key (however you obtained it) activates, it means that this is a legit key.

 

Otherwise Windows will warn you about a counterfeit version.

 

Of course it could have been stolen/resold, but it is still original, legit, MS key.


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  #1559675 25-May-2016 20:58
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zespri:

 

1101:

 

and btw, activation does not in any way mean its legit.

 

But it does. At least as far as Windows goes.

 

To the best of my knowledge no one made up a magical "keygen" that can produce legit MS keys. What has been done is *hacking* windows into accepting non genuine keys.

 

If you did not apply any such hacks on purpose and installed from the original Microsoft media, and your key (however you obtained it) activates, it means that this is a legit key.

 

Otherwise Windows will warn you about a counterfeit version.

 

Of course it could have been stolen/resold, but it is still original, legit, MS key.

 

 

That's like saying that it's OK to be driving a stolen car, because you use its original (stolen) legit key to start it.  wink





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  #1559727 25-May-2016 22:16
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That's like saying that it's OK to be driving a stolen car, because you use its original (stolen) legit key to start it.  wink

 

 

We are talking digital world here, sorry for stating the obvious, but it's not the same. 

 

I'm not advocating buying of dodgy keys, god forbid, but if your windows activates no one will take it away from you from this point on (providing you are not using a hack), whereas with the car, it can be forcibly returned to the rightful owner.


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  #1559736 25-May-2016 22:48
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zespri:

Sideface:


That's like saying that it's OK to be driving a stolen car, because you use its original (stolen) legit key to start it.  wink



We are talking digital world here, sorry for stating the obvious, but it's not the same. 


I'm not advocating buying of dodgy keys, god forbid, but if your windows activates no one will take it away from you from this point on (providing you are not using a hack), whereas with the car, it can be forcibly returned to the rightful owner.


But morally what difference is there in buying an illegitimate copy and just actually pirating it? The way I see it knowingly buying dodgy software is worse than just owning up to the fact you can't/won't buy it and just pirating it instead.




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  #1559742 25-May-2016 23:08
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toejam316:
zespri:

 

Sideface:

 

 

 

That's like saying that it's OK to be driving a stolen car, because you use its original (stolen) legit key to start it.  wink

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are talking digital world here, sorry for stating the obvious, but it's not the same. 

 

 

 

I'm not advocating buying of dodgy keys, god forbid, but if your windows activates no one will take it away from you from this point on (providing you are not using a hack), whereas with the car, it can be forcibly returned to the rightful owner.

 


But morally what difference is there in buying an illegitimate copy and just actually pirating it? The way I see it knowingly buying dodgy software is worse than just owning up to the fact you can't/won't buy it and just pirating it instead.

 

i suppose the difference comes down to, if the key is more or less likely to crop up as pirated...





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  #1559743 25-May-2016 23:25
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toejam316:
zespri:

 

Sideface:

 

 

 

That's like saying that it's OK to be driving a stolen car, because you use its original (stolen) legit key to start it.  wink

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are talking digital world here, sorry for stating the obvious, but it's not the same. 

 

 

 

I'm not advocating buying of dodgy keys, god forbid, but if your windows activates no one will take it away from you from this point on (providing you are not using a hack), whereas with the car, it can be forcibly returned to the rightful owner.

 


But morally what difference is there in buying an illegitimate copy and just actually pirating it? The way I see it knowingly buying dodgy software is worse than just owning up to the fact you can't/won't buy it and just pirating it instead.

 

I agree. If you are going to *pay* for a stolen key, then you might as well do yourself a favour and just pirate the thing. The only difference it makes, is that someone who does not deserve it gets your money. The rest is exactly the same. Believing that it's different is just a half-hearted way  to convince yourself that you "at least made an effort" by paying this token money to who knows whom.


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  #1559746 25-May-2016 23:39
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This thread does make me wonder how long before windows becomes an annual subscription for new licenses. They have somewhat conditioned people to subscriptions with office and email services.


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  #1559763 26-May-2016 04:14
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Just use a pirated copy of windows 8.1 then freely upgrade it to windows 10 instant legit as it seems MS don't really care as long as you upgrade to 10 you then become a legit windows user.... 

 

 

 

By making everybody legit they make everyone more secure because you wont have to turn off windows update thereby not receiving security updates  


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