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#393528 19-Oct-2010 11:04

Just to preempt the posts tomorrow asking what happened....this takes place on the 21st in NZT.

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#393574 19-Oct-2010 12:59

At 6am.

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#393741 19-Oct-2010 19:23

Ya i Cant Wait i Will be watching that Live Some where maybe on ustream

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#394215 21-Oct-2010 07:20

Ok the new air is fail. Still C2D. Will wait for new Mac book pro 13"

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#394220 21-Oct-2010 07:40

Don't think the MBA is designed to be a workhorse like a MBP so I think a C2D is perfect for what the MBA is intended to be used for.

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#394221 21-Oct-2010 07:43

Yea when I saw the 11" it got a bit better.

11" makes it more of a net book. Which makes the specs ok. Still a i3 would of been nice.

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#394226 21-Oct-2010 08:06

I was quite happy with OSX and iOS being two distinctly different products, now I see they're shoving more iOS down the throat of OSX

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#394230 21-Oct-2010 08:11

I have not watched the video, and have only read a summary. That summary didn't leave me feeling good about OS 10.7.

The summary stated that some of the bundled apps, such as Preview, now support full-screen mode (which it already does, through View > Slideshow). The OS also apparently has more touch gestures and a new way to launch apps.

The article I read did not detail any other new features. Can someone that has seen the video please tell me what else is in there? So far, I don't see anything in there that I'd use, and I'd appreciate it if someone could assuage my fears.

Note: FaceTime and the App Store will apparently both be available for 10.6.

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#394235 21-Oct-2010 08:33

Caught the stream half way through but basically Macs are not going to go touch screen anytime soon as it has been deemed unergonomic but touch gestures will be included in the OS from the track pads.

They seem to be trying to make it easier to move between windows/programs/apps through the use of touch gestures and there is a new feature called Mission Control which is brought forward with a touch gesture and allows you to see the whole state of your session at once.

An (optional) app store will be running within 90 days, not waiting for Lion and the revenues the same as the iOS store.

New, instant-on , MacBook Airs with on-board flash memory.

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#394325 21-Oct-2010 12:01

As long as the iOS and Mac OS features are still separate enough within the desktop UI to be a choice as to whether to use them or not, then I think I will probably end up liking them. If they're forced on me as new UI features that I don't have an option but to use, then I won't be happy.

And what I mean by that is as long as I can continue with the workflow that works for me, I don't mind trying out new features as and when I find the time. I don't want to learn or adjust my workflow from the outset because I just don't have time for that.

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#394328 21-Oct-2010 12:03

stuzzo: Caught the stream half way through but basically Macs are not going to go touch screen anytime soon as it has been deemed unergonomic but touch gestures will be included in the OS from the track pads.

They seem to be trying to make it easier to move between windows/programs/apps through the use of touch gestures and there is a new feature called Mission Control which is brought forward with a touch gesture and allows you to see the whole state of your session at once.

An (optional) app store will be running within 90 days, not waiting for Lion and the revenues the same as the iOS store.

New, instant-on , MacBook Airs with on-board flash memory.

Multitouch gestures have been around since the glass track pad was introduced, and they're great. Even better is an app called BetterTouchTool which allows you to really customise the way you use multitouch gestures way beyond that which Apple deems appropriate for you to use. There's only so much you can do before you run out of combinations of fingers that are easy to remember though, so a combo of multi-touch keyboard + touch display would be a winner IMO

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#394340 21-Oct-2010 12:44

After watching the whole keynote, I would say that I'm not really happy with the whole Mac App store thing. Judging by the amount of rubbish apps that resides in iOS stores, and Apple's vague definitions of rules and regulations, I would still prefer the traditional routes of obtaining apps, i.e. via website downloading.

Plus, the 70/30 revenue split will certainly drive software prices up, since developers will need to charge more to cover the 30 to Apple. Apart from that, putting iOS style apps management into OS X doesn't ring my bells. I watched the demo and find that the guy can't operate smoothly with the magic mouse, how much really do i WANT, or NEED multi-touch on OS X, seriously?

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#394342 21-Oct-2010 12:53

PoLiGnAc: Apple's vague definitions of rules and regulations

I haven't seen the iOS rules but I believe that the OS X ones are more complete: http://pastie.org/1236378

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#394349 21-Oct-2010 13:03

PoLiGnAc: After watching the whole keynote, I would say that I'm not really happy with the whole Mac App store thing. Judging by the amount of rubbish apps that resides in iOS stores, and Apple's vague definitions of rules and regulations, I would still prefer the traditional routes of obtaining apps, i.e. via website downloading.

Plus, the 70/30 revenue split will certainly drive software prices up, since developers will need to charge more to cover the 30 to Apple. Apart from that, putting iOS style apps management into OS X doesn't ring my bells. I watched the demo and find that the guy can't operate smoothly with the magic mouse, how much really do i WANT, or NEED multi-touch on OS X, seriously?

The multi-touch track pad is a god send, trust me. It's completely natural to use and has increased my productivity immensely.

I'm sure there is nothing to say that a developer HAS to sell their item in the Mac App Store. Traditional sales streams will still exist, however if a developer wants easy exposure for their app then they will wear the restrictions put in place by Apple so they can inhabit a spot in the app store.

Doesn't mean that you can't visit their website directly to purchase their product does it? I mean it's not like Mac OS X is turning into a completely closed OS that requires apps to be signed by Apple before they can be used - like iOS.

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#394372 21-Oct-2010 14:18

$2199 is hardly worth the price paying for a 13".

I am getting mine from OZ or overseas instead and the government's GST loss

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