https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_and_Betty_Hill

Wasn't this the first alien encounter in the US?

frankv:

 

Well, no. Someone knows technical stuff way beyond the published abilities of the USA. Remember the 1991 Gulf War, and the sudden appearance of the F117 stealth aircraft. Those aircraft had been flying for a decade at that point, and had started development in 1975 based on research published in 1964.

 

Whilst the F-35 and drones are visible research and development projects, there's bound to have been game-changing technological development done in black projects in the last 10 years.

 

Independence Day -- Julius Levinson:You don't actually think they spent $20,000 on a hammer, $30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?  

I remember reading an article in an aviation magazine over 20 years ago which quoted a military aviation commentator. This guy had predicted the existence of the SR71 Blackbird well before it was ever made public. At the time the article was written the retirement of the SR71 was being talked about. This guy said the SR 71 will not be retired unless there is a replacement and basically said, "If the SR71 is retired then there is a much better/more capable aircraft taking its place".

There's a very interesting documentary that I saw about the stealth aircraft and the development of them all based on the work of a Russian scientist whose work nobody really took notice of at the time it was done. Who knows what they haven't talked about in public.

Yep Batman the main Thunderfoot video conclusion is parallax effect, of high flying fast plane , large bird below travelling slowly.
With the IR camera gimbal tracking the bird it makes the background ( Sea below ) zip by at equal or faster speed,
giving impression of a supersonic bird.
When camera gets to end of its travel, loses lock on object, and stops tracking bird zips off the screen at unimaginable speed.

The main thing with these is that you are not seeing what pilot sees in front of him, but the gimbaled IR camera which is rapidly panning.

The most recent one, the triangles agree with being out of focus artifacts. 
Winking suggests normal aeroplane navigation lights.
The triangular iris used in that type of camera helps create this effect apparently.

Batman: We have not mastered space flight. Can't even send anyone to the moon nowadays

Our best rocket technology is so primitive and inefficient that if the mass of a planet was ~50% greater than Earth, then they couldn't carry enough fuel (let alone payload) to reach escape velocity.

To be fair, I have given this a lot of thought and I don't believe that the aliens would be that interested in us, other than as a human is with animals at the zoo. 

And much like we do with animals, when we are "looking after them", we probe their anuses. I think that explains why they keep coming here to violate our anuses. We live in a zoo. 

We are human so we anthropomorphise everything. Our aliens do what we might do. We expect them to act like us and more or less look like us. But real aliens are likely to be so different from us that they might not even recognise our presence. Maybe they flit through different dimensions, which might explain some of the unusual properties of their aircraft. Maybe they don't try to communicate because they left radio technology behind many eons ago, and don't notice that there are creatures here that could be communicated with. Maybe they just don't find us that interesting - beyond our anuses, of course. 

If they were really interested in human arseholes, I could send them a list of names.

Yes, I would agree. Either that, or an advanced lifeform that is so far ahead of us and able to traverse the galaxy or universe to visit Earth would probably view us as we would view a common, non-descript insect wandering across the BBQ plate just before ignition. 

Resnick:

 

Yes, I would agree. Either that, or an advanced lifeform that is so far ahead of us and able to traverse the galaxy or universe to visit Earth would probably view us as we would view a common, non-descript insect wandering across the BBQ plate just before ignition. 

 

Insects are probably the last wild food resource carnivorous humans will be BBQing, so long as we don't turn to cannibalism (literally rather than the metaphorical fact).

Rikkitic:

 

So you are saying they have mastered anti-gravity and inertialess drives?

 

No, I'm saying that the US military has stuff that no-one outside it has any idea about. There's no need to introduce aliens to explain that.

UFOlogists like to interpret camera motion and other artifacts as evidence of anti-gravity and inertialess drives. You don't get on Tucker Carlson if you say "It's a duck".

FWIW, I do believe that there is extraterrestrial life somewhere out in the Universe... it's just too vast for it to be improbable. And maybe it evolved faster than us, and maybe it has developed faster-than-light travel (or a huge amount of patience). But there's a *lot* of universe for them to search through to find us.It becomes highly improbable that any two separately evolved life forms would meet.

And, just like us, it would be *much* easier to send a semi-autonomous vehicle to investigate and report back. First step is a fly-by or two to see what's interesting, then something to orbit interesting planets, then a lander with a *soil* probe.

Given the nearest Earth-like planet is 4.7 light-years away, these steps will be over 4.7 years apart, so that the results of the first trip can inform the design of the next one.

The Universe may or may not be infinite, but if it is, that means every possible outcome has happened somewhere, and is in the process of happening somewhere else. It means that aliens with ray guns actually could land on the White House lawn one day. Nothing can be excluded on the basis of probability.

just because we dont know what it is, why must it ALLWAYS be aliens ?
Yes , aliens so advanced they can travel light years in the blink of an eye, but havnt mastered how to block radar

So humans: more advanced than aliens. The US can avoid/block/hide from radar, aliens cant.
And the these 'aliens' arnt smart enough to stay away from US warships , a fleets crammed with radar and fast planes to chase them .
Are the Aliens sending their most stupid of Pilots ? :)

And these US Navy sightings. All nicely close to the US border , if testing stuff the US would keep it close to home perhaps.

Where is the GOOD footage of the flying saucers . Everyone now has a camera in their pocket. Yet no GOOD photos of alien craft or little green men.
And dont get me started on aliens Anal Probing of captured humans. They traveled light years just to do that . really ?

frankv:

 

FWIW, I do believe that there is extraterrestrial life somewhere out in the Universe... it's just too vast for it to be improbable. And maybe it evolved faster than us, and maybe it has developed faster-than-light travel (or a huge amount of patience). But there's a *lot* of universe for them to search through to find us.It becomes highly improbable that any two separately evolved life forms would meet.

 

Your statements run afoul of Fermi's Paradox

For people interested in this stuff (why have we not encountered aliens) I can highly recommend Josh Clark's podcast The End Of The World    That's the Josh Clark from Stuff You Should Know.

[Mod edit: fixed link to Fermi's Paradox article]