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#1579390 24-Jun-2016 09:29

Fred99:

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But then again, I dont think Trump would know the difference between Spanish and Klingon.

Doesn't matter - he'd send them all back to Tatooine regardless.

With a bit of luck the USA may vote a Trumpexit

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#1579407 24-Jun-2016 09:52

My prediction is 52-48 in favour of remain (unfortunately).

Too much financial fear spread for leave to win. A lot of people can't see past the end of their wallets.

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#1579410 24-Jun-2016 09:54

SJB:

My prediction is 52-48 in favour of remain (unfortunately).

Too much financial fear spread for leave to win. A lot of people can't see past the end of their wallets.

What ever way this goes this will only be round one.

I agree a vote to stay looks likely with last minute polls hinting that. The real poll result will be known this afternoon.

My personal view and that of most of my family in the UK is a vote to stay is the best outcome.

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#1579460 24-Jun-2016 11:40

I'm not very confident at all that the remain votes will take this.

Pre-referendum polls were indicating 67% remain for Newcastle, but the result is 50.7 to 49.3%

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#1579464 24-Jun-2016 11:58

Is Thursday a traditional 'payday' in UK? The remain vote is generally young, so expecting Newcastle's youth to vote after work on payday might have been a bad plan lol.

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#1579468 24-Jun-2016 12:04

Watching the results coming in at the moment. The Pound doesn't like it.

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#1579480 24-Jun-2016 12:27

Watching the BBC coverage. They are doing a good job of it. As for the result who knows but we will know circa 3pm

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#1579508 24-Jun-2016 12:57

NYSE and FTSE futures are taking a bit of a hammering (worse than the negative figures suggest, as they were up by 1% or so before poll results started coming in). Not a crash, but a significant negative sentiment out there from the markets.

I'm really picking a brexit result.

If you look at regions (NI and Scotland) where there's a reasonable % of the vote counted, then compare to pre-referendum polls, then the swing in actual votes vs polls is 5% or more favouring Brexit. No swings anywhere the other way. England count so far is about 60% vs 40% for leaving the EU.

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#1579519 24-Jun-2016 13:14

Fred99:

NYSE and FTSE futures are taking a bit of a hammering (worse than the negative figures suggest, as they were up by 1% or so before poll results started coming in). Not a crash, but a significant negative sentiment out there from the markets.

I'm really picking a brexit result.

If you look at regions (NI and Scotland) where there's a reasonable % of the vote counted, then compare to pre-referendum polls, then the swing in actual votes vs polls is 5% or more favouring Brexit. No swings anywhere the other way. England count so far is about 60% vs 40% for leaving the EU.

Fingers and toes crossed...!

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#1579521 24-Jun-2016 13:18

Any one checking into Farage and Johnson's forex transactions after they were talking down the pound earlier today? ; ).

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#1579528 24-Jun-2016 13:23

Geektastic:

Fred99:

NYSE and FTSE futures are taking a bit of a hammering (worse than the negative figures suggest, as they were up by 1% or so before poll results started coming in). Not a crash, but a significant negative sentiment out there from the markets.

I'm really picking a brexit result.

If you look at regions (NI and Scotland) where there's a reasonable % of the vote counted, then compare to pre-referendum polls, then the swing in actual votes vs polls is 5% or more favouring Brexit. No swings anywhere the other way. England count so far is about 60% vs 40% for leaving the EU.

Fingers and toes crossed...!

Uh-oh

I was about to edit my post above. Others seem to have reached the same conclusion I have, that there will be a brexit, and it might be ugly.

The Pound is now heading South very fast, DJIA futures have tanked (presently down ~450 points) FTSE future have tanked harder - down ~340 points which would be an approximately 6% drop when the markets open.

Edit - and bouncing around as the latest bunch of results counted so far even out the result so far to: 50.3% Brexit, 49.3% remain.

And second edit - Remain slightly ahead 50.6 : 49.4.

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#1579542 24-Jun-2016 13:41

The are so many reasons why a brexit is a terrible idea for Britain, with the arguments from pro brexit camps superficial, mostly ideological and riddled with risk. Even if they leave the EU, they'll still be bound by so many of the EU rules that so many seem to fear if they want to have any kind of workable economic relationship with Europe. It's pretty clear from the public positions of businesses, banks economists and other experts both in the UK and Europe as well as internationally that leaving the EU will be bad news.

The fact that UKIP are championing the brexit campaign is almost proof enough on it's own that this will be bad for Britain. And Donald Trump.

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#1579552 24-Jun-2016 14:01

The ironic thing is that if Scotland had voted to leave the UK and therefore not been included in this referendum then brexit would probably win comfortably as most if not all of Scotland will vote to remain.

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#1579558 24-Jun-2016 14:10

SJB:

The ironic thing is that if Scotland had voted to leave the UK and therefore not been included in this referendum then brexit would probably win comfortably as most if not all of Scotland will vote to remain.

Scotland is only 8.4% of the UK population. England is 84%.

Despite the count so being unbelievably close at the moment, I think Brexit will pull ahead and win. Simple reason, about half of the votes from Scotland, NI and Wales are already in, but it looks like less than 20% of the England vote has been counted.

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#1579560 24-Jun-2016 14:11

Big spikes in the currency. NZ Dollar up. Markets are predicting an exit.

But looking at the pre-lim its so close. 50.1 to 49.9. Nothing in it so far.

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