District-9: NZ Film rating system

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Journeyman

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#250369 25-Aug-2009 14:46

When I worked at a movie theatre, all of 10 years ago, a student ID was acceptable. It's really just proof of age, not legal proof of identity as such.

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#250370 25-Aug-2009 14:47

NonprayingMantis:
BlueToothKiwi:
NonprayingMantis:but who really has ID at 16 apart from early drivers?

Most high schools have Student ID's

I was under the impression that the only legal form of ID in Nz is a NZ driving licence, or a passport.
Nothing else is acceptable.

You're thinking about the liquor laws, and in any case you're forgetting the HANZ 18+ card. From the Rialto website: "It is recommended that a birth certificate, drivers license or photo ID which displays a date of birth is used as proof of age for restricted films."

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#250397 25-Aug-2009 15:54

NonprayingMantis: I was under the impression that the only legal form of ID in Nz is a NZ driving licence, or a passport.
Nothing else is acceptable.

Incorrect. You are mixing and matching two concepts: legal and acceptable.

Most organisations are free to choose to accept or decline virtually any document as long as they comply with any applicable laws relating to who they are selling / servicing.

I am not sure what cinemas are restricted to accepting, if anything.

Licenced premises (liquor) may ONLY accept:

New Zealand Passport

New Zealand Driver's Licence

Overseas Passport

HANZ 18+ photo ID card (18+ card)

And CANNOT accept student IDs, firearms licences, credit cards, birth certificates etc etc.

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#250475 25-Aug-2009 19:14

BlueToothKiwi: Yesterday, I took my 15 year old (who will be 16 shortly) to watch District-9 [afer reading the IMDB parental guide], only to be refused entry at the door.

You should of just lied and said he was 16, they ain't going to go do a security check.

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#250484 25-Aug-2009 20:02

You should of just lied and said he was 16, they ain't going to go do a security check.

I would guess that you are a kid, rather than a parent. Not many parents would happily teach their 15-year-old that it is ok to get what you want by lying. It would undermine a lifetime of work:)

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#250490 25-Aug-2009 20:16

BlueToothKiwi: Yesterday, I took my 15 year old (who will be 16 shortly) to watch District-9 [afer reading the IMDB parental guide], only to be refused entry at the door.

Sorry I missed this line of info when I started reading this this morning .. are you saying you read the IMDB parental guide, read that the film had a 10 out of 10 rating for "Violence & Gore" and a 10 out of 10 for "Profanity", then thought something like "Yes that sounds like an ideal movie to take a child to!", and are now a bit miffed that the cinema did their job and refused entry ?

Interesting .....

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#250500 25-Aug-2009 20:56

BlueToothKiwi:
• R16 Restricted to persons over 16 years of age only. No exception.

No exception.

There was a story in the news not so long ago where a woman wanted to take her newborn baby into an R16 movie. Not allowed. Even though the kid could probably not even see the screen much less make sense of what was going on, it couldn't go it. Why? because the law make no allowance for *anyone* under the specified age to watch it.

(It may seem ridiculous - on the other hand you'd have to be fairly cruel to take a baby into the noisy theatre of an R16 movie!)

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#250568 26-Aug-2009 06:24

TinyTim:
There was a story in the news not so long ago where a woman wanted to take her newborn baby into an R16 movie. Not allowed. Even though the kid could probably not even see the screen much less make sense of what was going on, it couldn't go it.

This is where it gets a bit inconsistent.
Checkout
http://www.skycitycinemas.co.nz/BabyOnBoard.cmsx

You often see M rated (i.e. Suitable for mature persons over 16 years of age!!) films there.

Right now I can technically take a two year old toddler and sit him/her on a booster sheet in front of Harry Potter film rated M and scare the crap out of the child.... And I am sure it happens all the time.

However, if I take a five year old "child" to see the Harry Potter film in peak time, the child will be refused. So it is OK for a 2 year old - but not for a 5 year old.

But - You will be amazed what a two year old can take in and then act it out in the Day care the day after!

Double standard?

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#250619 26-Aug-2009 10:40

BlueToothKiwi:
TinyTim:
There was a story in the news not so long ago where a woman wanted to take her newborn baby into an R16 movie. Not allowed. Even though the kid could probably not even see the screen much less make sense of what was going on, it couldn't go it.

This is where it gets a bit inconsistent.
Checkout
http://www.skycitycinemas.co.nz/BabyOnBoard.cmsx

You often see M rated (i.e. Suitable for mature persons over 16 years of age!!) films there.

Right now I can technically take a two year old toddler and sit him/her on a booster sheet in front of Harry Potter film rated M and scare the crap out of the child.... And I am sure it happens all the time.

However, if I take a five year old "child" to see the Harry Potter film in peak time, the child will be refused. So it is OK for a 2 year old - but not for a 5 year old.

But - You will be amazed what a two year old can take in and then act it out in the Day care the day after!

Double standard?

Are you sure? Because M rated movies are not restricted. It is a recommendation.

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#250681 26-Aug-2009 14:37

bazzer:
Are you sure?

Yeah. The definitions are here:

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#250685 26-Aug-2009 14:50

BlueToothKiwi:
bazzer:
Are you sure?

Yeah. The definitions are here:

In peak time Sky City probably want to sell all seats at full price. An M rated film is not restricted, rather "suitable for mature audiences 16 years of age and over."

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#250744 26-Aug-2009 17:15

BlueToothKiwi:
bazzer:
Are you sure?

Yeah. The definitions are here:

And?

• G Suitable for general audiences of all ages.
• PG Younger children may require parental guidance.
• M Suitable for mature persons over 16 years of age.
• RP16 Restricted to persons over 16 years of age unless accompanied by a parent or guardian. (also sometimes called R)
• R16 Restricted to persons over 16 years of age only.
• R18 Restricted to persons over 18 years of age only.

What does M mean to you? Have you ever taken your 15.999 year old to an M and been turned away? I doubt it, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. If you were turned away, they made a mistake.

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#250873 26-Aug-2009 23:42

I think the R16 should be "unless accompanied by a parent or guardian."
Otherwise the government is taking away the rights of parents to parent there own children.

NZ is so conservative.

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#250920 27-Aug-2009 09:27

hellonearthisman: I think the R16 should be "unless accompanied by a parent or guardian."
Otherwise the government is taking away the rights of parents to parent there own children.

NZ is so conservative.

That is what the R = RP16 rating is for. I don't think it's any parent's right to take their children to R16 or R18 movies is it? If they feel that strongly about it, they can wait until it comes out on BD and rent it for the kids to watch at home.

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#251809 30-Aug-2009 21:01

It felt like they dropped the F bomb as every second word at one point. Even the aliens were using it!

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