Movies coming out only in 3D grrr argggh.

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#597530 20-Mar-2012 10:08

Thats all that is available for now, I buy pretty much all blu-rays if it is an option, but for many films we stock (b grade, direct to video, or worse), they just aren't there. There has been the odd one I would have thought should have been on blu-ray (Hosetl 3 for example), and then there are others that have come out only in blu-ray/dvd packs (IE DVD not available separetly - Wrong Turn No4 and Another Earth).

This is changing, 18 - 24 months ago, it was only our top 10 movies or so, then slowly it trickled down and so forth. Now, as I say, around 1/2, I can't see it ever getting to blu-ray only for all films, but would expect 70 - 80% of films released to be on blu-ray within the next 2 years or so (rapid early growth is easy, getting the last bit will be harder).

I own a rental shop, not retail. In terms of rental patterns, blu-ray used to be a nice to have for some movies / customers, now, more customers are only taking the blu-ray, subsequently, my depth has just grown another 20 - 30% on first and 2nd tier titles.

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#597532 20-Mar-2012 10:20

gzt: The Hobbit is being filmed at 48FPS. That might make a difference.

But can cinema's project that given their existing gear?

Scenes are now being designed with 3D in mind, so I don't mind a movie that's been approached like that. I'm against movies which are essentially 2D and then converted etc. If it's a true 3D movie, then you're not seeing what the director intended if you see that in 2D, a bit like people who don't like 'black bars' etc.

Personally I've never really liked the muted colours etc that 3D brings with it etc.

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#597611 20-Mar-2012 12:24

sen8or: Thats all that is available for now, I buy pretty much all blu-rays if it is an option, but for many films we stock (b grade, direct to video, or worse), they just aren't there. There has been the odd one I would have thought should have been on blu-ray (Hosetl 3 for example), and then there are others that have come out only in blu-ray/dvd packs (IE DVD not available separetly - Wrong Turn No4 and Another Earth).

This is changing, 18 - 24 months ago, it was only our top 10 movies or so, then slowly it trickled down and so forth. Now, as I say, around 1/2, I can't see it ever getting to blu-ray only for all films, but would expect 70 - 80% of films released to be on blu-ray within the next 2 years or so (rapid early growth is easy, getting the last bit will be harder).

I own a rental shop, not retail. In terms of rental patterns, blu-ray used to be a nice to have for some movies / customers, now, more customers are only taking the blu-ray, subsequently, my depth has just grown another 20 - 30% on first and 2nd tier titles.

Yeah I have to admit, since my local video store started renting the blu-rays for the same price as their DVD's I don't tend to look much in the DVD sections.

I can see blu-rays eventually becoming the only format, it will be a while yet but I remember it taken a really long time to completely phase out VHS. It'll happen when you can pick up a cheap blu-ray player from countdown for $50 with your groceries. :)

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#597627 20-Mar-2012 12:54

Hobchild:

Yeah I have to admit, since my local video store started renting the blu-rays for the same price as their DVD's I don't tend to look much in the DVD sections.

I can see blu-rays eventually becoming the only format, it will be a while yet but I remember it taken a really long time to completely phase out VHS. It'll happen when you can pick up a cheap blu-ray player from countdown for $50 with your groceries. :)

$78 at the warehouse quite often. Not far to go now till its at that pricepoint.

The problem is that there are still companies making home theaters and TVs etc with DVD players in them. That really has to stop before bluray becomes ubiquitous.

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#597668 20-Mar-2012 13:36

we include our weekly blu-rays in our $1 rentals on our cheap days, always have and have always included them at the same pricing as DVD, theres fk all difference in cost (with the smaller suppliers, they have price parity, its the larger suppliers that are still charging a $3 - $5 premium for blu-ray then another $3-$5 for 3d blu-ray).

With Sony, Phillips & Toshiba all having prices circa $120, I really would not waste my money on something from the warehouse etc.

We still have trouble convincing customers that if the blu-ray doesn't play / read or has errors, theres a 99.9999% chance that they will need to do a player update, especially for a new release movie. We have enough trouble with transonic etc dvd players trying to play normal dvds, I would put the odds on them playing new blu-rays in the "sweet fk all chance" range to be honest, and then, are they ever going to do firmware updates?

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#597701 20-Mar-2012 14:17

Yeah United Video in Palmerston North charge $4 flat rate for anything new, be it DVD or Bluray and $1 for anything weekly.

Games are separate to that.

Agreed on the cheapy players. I know it's easy to say, but honestly it's worth an extra $50 to get something that will last for years and offer updates as required etc.

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#597713 20-Mar-2012 14:29

Can always return the cheapie when it wont play stuff and they have no update for it. Plus it cant be much longer till things get sorted to the point that dvd is now where anything plays anything. Content makers will have to be aware of the large installed base and stop doing things that break on existing players.

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#597841 20-Mar-2012 18:39

Jaxson:
gzt: The Hobbit is being filmed at 48FPS. That might make a difference.
But can cinema's project that given their existing gear?

According to P.Jackson's trials, most existing digital cinema projectors are capable. That was six months ago.

Jaxson: Scenes are now being designed with 3D in mind, so I don't mind a movie that's been approached like that.

It's early days. The artistic skills are lagging far behind the technology so far.

[Edit: the higher frame rate is expected to improve the colour issues as well]

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#597852 20-Mar-2012 18:50

stevenz: If you really want some literary torture, try reading Tolkeins "The Silmarillion". It's basically a bible for middle earth. I'm sure for those that like to wear chain mail on weekends it's wonderful, but for the dabbler it's pretty mind-numbing stuff.

I have to disagree. If you get through the LOTR books 1,2 & 3 the Silmarillion is like a bedtime story in comparison. I admit to skipping some of the begats. It is a glimpse into the misty past. Despite being very short, there is easily another four movies waiting in there ; ) + a couple of TV spin-offs.

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#598112 21-Mar-2012 10:48

stevenz: I don't "get" 3D movies. I find the effect to be irritating and it ruins the immersion, it's never "smooth" transitional 3D, but looks more like the parallax effect that they used to implement in video games in the Atari/Amiga days. 2D looks more "natural", particularly on the big screen.

That is beacuse in most scenes, the 3D is unnatural. In real life, anything beyond 10m from you is 2D (in terms of binocular vision).

Even when 3D would be appropriate, it is done in a weird way. The last Harry Potter for example, in the scene in the beach house, the foreground and characters are 'flat' while things in the distance went 'into' the screen (yes I found fiddling with my glasses more interesting than the dialogue).

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