Chorus outside employees not allowed to wear short sleeves?

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jeffnz

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#991353 20-Feb-2014 20:03

bagheera: you think it bad for chorus guys - they have it easy compared to a road worker on a State Highway - even in northland with 30+c temp this summer they have to have safe boots, safe eyeware, high vis clothing, long sleeves shirts & long pants, safety helmets, gloves - then they have to have lots of breaks as they are over heating.......

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/health-and-safety-ppe/docs/health-and-safety-ppe.pdf

and on that note the armed forces in the middle east and other very hot climates that have to wear body armour, helmets boots and also carry all their gear, they don't get regulation time off to rest when patrolling.

I've always admired the fire service and all the kit they wear into a fire in any temperature.

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#991372 20-Feb-2014 20:11

This policy doesn't really bother most people here in Oz... All the big companies send people home when it hits 37 degrees. :p

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#991423 20-Feb-2014 21:24

jeffnz: Its not all about supporting workers its a two way street and my experience with Unions is they want what they can get for thier guys but won't help ensure they comply with some aspects of H&S and see that as a company thing which is strange given they all purport to be looking after their guys but if they aren't pushing H&S they are just the same as bosses paying lip service to it. It seems , like political parties, they choose their corner and won't move from it.

I asked a contact in the Rail Union about Transfield workers in KiwiRail. He said that Transfield had a total coverage policy and several staff had been dismissed for refusing to follow policy. The union had no issue with that as long as agreed disciplinary procedure was followed. The gear was described as good stuff made by a sportswear manufacturer not just cotton.

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#991426 20-Feb-2014 21:28

Bung:
jeffnz: Its not all about supporting workers its a two way street and my experience with Unions is they want what they can get for thier guys but won't help ensure they comply with some aspects of H&S and see that as a company thing which is strange given they all purport to be looking after their guys but if they aren't pushing H&S they are just the same as bosses paying lip service to it. It seems , like political parties, they choose their corner and won't move from it.

I asked a contact in the Rail Union about Transfield workers in KiwiRail. He said that Transfield had a total coverage policy and several staff had been dismissed for refusing to follow policy. The union had no issue with that as long as agreed disciplinary procedure was followed. The gear was described as good stuff made by a sportswear manufacturer not just cotton.

I think thats great but how actively do they encourage their guys to follow policy on safety or do they just ensure that, as you say, procedures are followed with regards to disciplinary.

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#991434 20-Feb-2014 21:54

I think you'll fond this type of full cover policy become more common for a number of reasons...... essentially all safety related.

Folk have mentioned Transfield, Downer, and Fulton Hogan, all these companies operate internationally and have staff numbers measured in the thousands, they need to focus on employee safety because their safety stats have become key elements of their contract and tender processes. Customers (councils, govt. agencies etc) are typically using public money and theres a clear risk associated with poor safety using tax/rate-payer funds. Additionally many of these larger companies carry the H&S risk themselves, ie:they are exempted from ACC payments because they carry their own risk liability. The up side is it improves their bottom line, improves site and employee safety... the downside, you regulate (set your rules) based on the lowest common denominator.

In Christchurch the rebuild process is being used to drive safety standards into the construction and infrastructure community. From there it will roll nationally across all operators and make the work environments safer for everyone.
Not convinced this is a good thing..... hows about going to work in the forresty industry?

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#991471 20-Feb-2014 22:43

I don't usually work outside for extended periods, but when I do I find it difficult to remember sunblock every single time because pretty much focussed on the job. Employer doesn't provide a hat so I always wear my own. Customers ask if I work for Mitre10 when the see the logo on my hat, so I reckon its worth putting your own brand on the sunhats...

Time to find a new industry!

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