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#3216325 9-Apr-2024 17:54

Jase2985:

Chills:

Why does Netgear exist? Do they exist to get triumphed by every other competitor in the networking space? Do they exist to show other companies how to NOT make a good product? So many questions.

examples?

Well for consumer grade / residential, any of their new age Mesh Systems - Triumphed by TP-Link and even ASUS in usability and performance. Any of their applications, software and/or GUIs, triumphed by again, TP-Link, ASUS and even Netcomm. You will find any of there RBR350s and up won't reach near their rated speeds.

Business Grade is easily triumphed by Ubiquiti in usability, pricing and availability. I find that putting Netgear products together isn't as seamless as Ubiquiti or even TP-Link and their Omada product line.

Special Mention: Their Orbi 860 Series, they have 1x 10GB Internet (WAN) port and 4 1GB LAN ports. You will get faster speeds over Wi-Fi than you would ethernet. This is what 2degrees use as their "Hyperfibre" router.

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#3216327 9-Apr-2024 18:02

Jase2985:
if you are measuring 245v you have an issue, as it shouldn't be more than 230% +/- 6% for Auckland

Depends on whether he means "exactly 245" or "close enough to 245", I get 243-244 quite a bit. Specifically, I get 237 - 243V most of the time. I never get 230V, or anything close to it.

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#3216335 9-Apr-2024 18:19

Chills:

Why does Netgear exist? Do they exist to get triumphed by every other competitor in the networking space? Do they exist to show other companies how to NOT make a good product? So many questions.

I have sold Netgear Switches for nigh on 20 years and to the best of my memory, never had one fail. They are cost-effective, feature-rich, and reliable.

I had a Netgear NAS for a long time, probably about 8 years that never missed a beat.

Consumer grade stuff, well, it's consumer grade so....

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#3216338 9-Apr-2024 18:29

networkn:

Chills:

Why does Netgear exist? Do they exist to get triumphed by every other competitor in the networking space? Do they exist to show other companies how to NOT make a good product? So many questions.

I have sold Netgear Switches for nigh on 20 years and to the best of my memory, never had one fail. They are cost-effective, feature-rich, and reliable.

I had a Netgear NAS for a long time, probably about 8 years that never missed a beat.

Consumer grade stuff, well, it's consumer grade so....

As you can see, I am not a netgear fan. I can't fault their old stuff, my first ever router was a Netgear and it went on for years, however I do want to preface my point is more on the newer stuff they release. It seems as their design, function and performance is all half arsed now. I do apologize I didn't mention that in my original hot take post.

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#3216339 9-Apr-2024 18:31

neb:
Jase2985:

if you are measuring 245v you have an issue, as it shouldn't be more than 230% +/- 6% for Auckland

Depends on whether he means "exactly 245" or "close enough to 245", I get 243-244 quite a bit. Specifically, I get 237 - 243V most of the time. I never get 230V, or anything close to it.

The official tolerance is 230V +/- 6%, so 216.2V - 243.8V, or to allow more reasonable standards of measurement in a domestic / residential environment 216V - 244V. A consumer shouldn't ever see supply voltages outside this range.

If you're seeing "243-244 quite a bit", your lines company has the output voltage wound right up on your supply transformer.

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#3216412 9-Apr-2024 22:33

What timezone is this in 😀 - it isn't the 10th anywhere at time of posting.

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#3216422 10-Apr-2024 01:39

Bear in mind that cheap multimeters are only rated to 2% or so. It's possible that the supply is within limits but the meter is over reading.

A slightly high voltage is not a significant concern and I've seen suggestions that the tolerance may be relaxed to better match Australia's.

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#3216471 10-Apr-2024 09:42

Jase2985:

if you are measuring 245v you have an issue, as it shouldn't be more than 230% +/- 6% for Auckland

If you want anything for accuracy, then you shouldn't be relying on a $20 smart power switch.

What I expect from a smart switch that claims to measure power usage is within 3% or so, as that lets me get a decent idea what things are costing me. They have just not bothered to calibrate them at all, and the older ones that could be flashed with tasmota could be calibrated to be very accurate.

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#3216511 10-Apr-2024 12:08

Voltage accuracy of 3% is fair. You're unlikely to get power accuracy of 3%, especially across a range of loads. Accurately measuring power requires both voltage and current measurements, measured simultaneously without phase or time differences, at about a kilohertz.

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#3216519 10-Apr-2024 12:38

SomeoneSomewhere: Voltage accuracy of 3% is fair. You're unlikely to get power accuracy of 3%, especially across a range of loads. Accurately measuring power requires both voltage and current measurements, measured simultaneously without phase or time differences, at about a kilohertz.

Which there are commodity chips available for cents that are able to do, and are what are used in these devices but without calibration to the shunt or voltage divider for the inputs, all that maths is wasted on bad data.

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#3218422 14-Apr-2024 19:56

How did Marty McFly make a pay phone call without 1950s money?

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#3218540 15-Apr-2024 12:14

Wikipedia suggests that the coinage basically didn't change across that timeframe. Old coin machines probably didn't do anything more than check the diameter and maybe thickness.

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#3218547 15-Apr-2024 12:33

Why are some potatoes sold washed, while other varieties are only sold brushed? If there was an advantage to leaving brushed, wouldn't that apply to all varieties?

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#3218551 15-Apr-2024 12:49

Senecio:
Why are some potatoes sold washed, while other varieties are only sold brushed? If there was an advantage to leaving brushed, wouldn't that apply to all varieties?

Washing is more complex, therefore more expensive.

It's also a great opportunity for price differentiation.

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#3218555 15-Apr-2024 12:52

SomeoneSomewhere: Wikipedia suggests that the coinage basically didn't change across that timeframe. Old coin machines probably didn't do anything more than check the diameter and maybe thickness.

Didn't he also end up buying a drink at the counter? I don't remember for certain.

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