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#2415952 11-Feb-2020 10:08

BarTender:

I also have a spare Draytek 2760 sitting here unused since I moved to UFB. If anyone wanted to test with it or purchase it off me I would happily part with it.

2760 supports G.vector.

2762 supports G.vector and G.inp. I have just received a 2762 for testing and I will post the results.

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#2416164 11-Feb-2020 13:29

MichaelNZ:

2760 supports G.vector.

2762 supports G.vector and G.inp. I have just received a 2762 for testing and I will post the results.

If DrayTek sent that to you, I'm happy for them to get in touch with me so we can include the device in any interoperability testing we run in the future.

We give the RSPs/vendors feedback of any issues we find when testing in our cable lab and work with them as much as we can on resolutions.
To the point where in the past we have put Vendors and out Nokia guys in direct contact so they can work out their differences of opinion over standards implementations :)

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#2416457 11-Feb-2020 21:51

BMarquis:

MichaelNZ:

2760 supports G.vector.

2762 supports G.vector and G.inp. I have just received a 2762 for testing and I will post the results.

If DrayTek sent that to you, I'm happy for them to get in touch with me so we can include the device in any interoperability testing we run in the future.

We give the RSPs/vendors feedback of any issues we find when testing in our cable lab and work with them as much as we can on resolutions.
To the point where in the past we have put Vendors and out Nokia guys in direct contact so they can work out their differences of opinion over standards implementations :)

as a someone who was on the other end of a piece of new equipment not being fully interoperable with the chorus network, i can certainly atest to this.

the support from chorus is great, just pays to have them onboard initially rather than when you suddenly discover all your test lines are of a certain flavor!

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#2416460 11-Feb-2020 21:54

hio77:

as a someone who was on the other end of a piece of new equipment not being fully interoperable with the chorus network, i can certainly atest to this.

the support from chorus is great, just pays to have them onboard initially rather than when you suddenly discover all your test lines are of a certain flavor!

I had a Cisco 887VA which I "upgraded" to support vectoring. Worked fine until I took it into town (Dannevirke) on a non-vectored ISAM and it would not connect.

The 2762 should be safe as this is officially sold here.

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#2416467 11-Feb-2020 22:19

MichaelNZ:
hio77:

as a someone who was on the other end of a piece of new equipment not being fully interoperable with the chorus network, i can certainly atest to this.

the support from chorus is great, just pays to have them onboard initially rather than when you suddenly discover all your test lines are of a certain flavor!

I had a Cisco 877VA which I "upgraded" to support vectoring. Worked fine until I took it into town (Dannevirke) on a non-vectored ISAM and it would not connect.

The 2762 should be safe as this is officially sold here.

877VA or 887VA? I personally don't see the point vectoring on it as after a few ACLs are loaded it wont push much past 40mbps from a routing perspective ,The next model the 897va is
significantly more powerful

I still have my old 887va here with a sec license free to a good home, left over from my ADSL days

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#2416468 11-Feb-2020 22:21

nztim:

877VA or 887VA? I personally don't see the point vectoring on it as after a few ACLs are loaded it wont push much past 40mbps from a routing perspective ,The next model the 897va is
significantly more powerful

887VA and I have now corrected my post.

TBH I don't use Cisco anymore. We are a Mikrotik shop.

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#2416479 11-Feb-2020 22:50

MichaelNZ:
nztim:

877VA or 887VA? I personally don't see the point vectoring on it as after a few ACLs are loaded it wont push much past 40mbps from a routing perspective ,The next model the 897va is
significantly more powerful

887VA and I have now corrected my post.

TBH I don't use Cisco anymore. We are a Mikrotik shop.

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Cisco are just too expensive for what it is, RB4011 is king of bang for buck, Find me another router for under $500 with 10Gsfp+ and can run an ipsec tunnel at full speed, running PPPoE, on a max/max UFB

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#2416480 11-Feb-2020 22:54

nztim:

Good Man

Cisco are just too expensive for what it is, RB4011 is king of bang for buck, Find me another router for under $500 with 10Gsfp+ and can run an ipsec tunnel at full speed, running PPPoE, on a max/max UFB

Totally agree its overpriced.

I run Mikrotik in my office, at clients and at a data centre where we BGP peer with our uplines and a bunch of bilats. So Mikrotik has something to suit all our needs from something under $100 to the CCR's we are running multiple fibres to.

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#2416811 12-Feb-2020 19:14

cyril7:

Hi, at work I have a number of 5311's installed on HexS Mikrotiks, all doing >100down, up, they are on a mix of Voda and Spark as ISP. Only issue I have found is ISPs with PPPoE is they sometimes fail to reconnect, so I use the netwatch feature and run a script to drop and restart the ppp session.

Cyril

Really interesting units, META is their Vendor ID.

They Don't vector, but atleast run in Protected mode so are friendly.

They do G.INP though!

The particular example i was looking at is quite noisy (Eletrically) but that may also be the enviroment. I'll maybe hunt out any more META Vendors in our logs at some stage for more of a drilldown.

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#2416813 12-Feb-2020 19:16

hio77:

They Don't vector, but atleast run in Protected mode so are friendly.

They are being sold here as G.Vector capable:

V5311 VDSL2 SFP Bridge (Telco Model)

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#2416814 12-Feb-2020 19:20

hio77:
cyril7:

Hi, at work I have a number of 5311's installed on HexS Mikrotiks, all doing >100down, up, they are on a mix of Voda and Spark as ISP. Only issue I have found is ISPs with PPPoE is they sometimes fail to reconnect, so I use the netwatch feature and run a script to drop and restart the ppp session.

Cyril

Really interesting units, META is their Vendor ID.

They Don't vector, but atleast run in Protected mode so are friendly.

They do G.INP though!

The particular example i was looking at is quite noisy (Eletrically) but that may also be the enviroment. I'll maybe hunt out any more META Vendors in our logs at some stage for more of a drilldown.

I will DM you another one to compare later tonight

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#2416846 12-Feb-2020 19:54

MichaelNZ:

hio77:

They Don't vector, but atleast run in Protected mode so are friendly.

They are being sold here as G.Vector capable:

V5311 VDSL2 SFP Bridge (Telco Model)

I know this, but that's what i can see looking at that particular example.

It may be that chorus are toggling it into Protected mode on that card type though?

I'll look at nztims example before pointing at brent for answers ;) - LSD's and LQD's only show so much...

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