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#2613498 30-Nov-2020 17:19

That may have changed.
I'm on the 'secondary port' - & I'm now on 1gb plan with voyager(October this year) - I will re-test - but don't think I'm restricted to 200

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816mbps down / 458mbps up.

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#2613539 30-Nov-2020 18:36

concordnz: That may have changed.
I'm on the 'secondary port' - & I'm now on 1gb plan with voyager(October this year) - I will re-test - but don't think I'm restricted to 200

Update : Speeds
816mbps down / 458mbps up.

There is "secondary port" and "secondary offering". On Chorus up until probably 18 months or so ago you could only have a primary offering on port 1 and a secondary offering on port 2. Now if you get a secondary offering connection on port 1 and the primary connection is RQ'd you can have a primary connection (with full speed) on port 2 of the ONT.

If there is both a primary and secondary connection on the same Chorus ONT you are still speed restricted on the secondary.

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#2613559 30-Nov-2020 19:50

Not to add confusion, our commercial (and that might be the difference) has 3 businesses at the same address, all three have 3 ONT's installed. From my understanding two of those are on the one incoming cable, and the third is a "secondary" cable.

Is commercial different from residential in that way it can be installed without surplus cost?

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#2613570 30-Nov-2020 20:07

hsvhel:
Not to add confusion, our commercial (and that might be the difference) has 3 businesses at the same address, all three have 3 ONT's installed. From my understanding two of those are on the one incoming cable, and the third is a "secondary" cable.

Is commercial different from residential in that way it can be installed without surplus cost?

are all three ONTs in the same comms room?

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#2613594 30-Nov-2020 20:22

nztim:
hsvhel:

Not to add confusion, our commercial (and that might be the difference) has 3 businesses at the same address, all three have 3 ONT's installed. From my understanding two of those are on the one incoming cable, and the third is a "secondary" cable.

Is commercial different from residential in that way it can be installed without surplus cost?

are all three ONTs in the same comms room?

there's no comm's room for the complex, each unit has their own install. We have 3 businesses operating from the same unit, three ONT's to match.

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#2613689 1-Dec-2020 08:25

hsvhel:

there's no comm's room for the complex, each unit has their own install. We have 3 businesses operating from the same unit, three ONT's to match.

are the three ONT's in the same room?

It is likely that each office has its on SAM

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#2613875 1-Dec-2020 11:03

There is a relatively straight forward solution if the OP chooses to set up the secondary dwelling in a specific way.

Let's say for argument's sake that the address of the primary land parcel is 2 Sample St.

If the minor dwelling onsite is to have it's own letterbox with a unique postal address (eg 2A Sample St) and the power meter for that dwelling will have a matching unique address registered with the Electricity Authority, then Chorus can treat the minor dwelling as Infill Build. This means a separate & unique address can be created in our system and we can build a second fibre dropoff to the property at the owner/customer's cost. This is a set fee of around $1500 from memory.

However if the minor dwelling does not have a separate and unique postal address, or has a shared power meter with the main dwelling, then it's not really considered to be a fully standalone dwelling and the Infill Build process may not be applicable.

So in closing, if the minor dwelling already has a unique postal address issued by NZ post, and a separate power meter with a matching unique address searchable here, then all you need to do is get your preferred RSP to submit an address validation request to Chorus. Once the address has been validated, an order can be placed BAU. At some point in the order process, the customer and/or building owner will be asked to pay the Infill Build fee, then the additional fibre drop-off at the street will be built and the install can then proceed BAU.

If you have no plans to have a unique postal address/individual power meters etc, then your options are as others have advised - you could get a port 2 connection on the existing ONT then complete your own Cat 6 cabling to the minor dwelling, or the other option is a Smart Location connection. These are normally used for assets that don't have a street address such as bus shelters, advertising hoardings, ATMs, traffic control boxes, portacoms and the like, and they are based on GPS coordinates. The downside is that the full cost to build network to Smart Locations is chargeable to the customer.

Happy to discuss this particular situation with the OP if they want to ping me.

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#2613906 1-Dec-2020 12:20

Can someone explain something a bit further for me.

If I have an existing house and subdivide the section, and someone builds on the newly created property and requests fibre, would that receive a free install?

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#2613927 1-Dec-2020 12:59

duckDecoy:

Can someone explain something a bit further for me.

If I have an existing house and subdivide the section, and someone builds on the newly created property and requests fibre, would that receive a free install?

See post above - Infill Build Process

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#2613993 1-Dec-2020 14:19

A mate of mine who rents out a second house on his section just includes internet in the rent and has a Ubiquiti mesh network sharing his Gigabit fibre connection with the tenant.

Not that if recommend the Ubiquiti mesh, it's ultra flakey.

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#2614004 1-Dec-2020 14:31

Any wireless mesh will be flakey if the wireless uplink is rubbish, use a cable, problem solved

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#2614485 2-Dec-2020 07:41

cyril7: Any wireless mesh will be flakey if the wireless uplink is rubbish, use a cable, problem solved

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Yeah - 30m between the two nodes (outdoor units), line of sight, on a lifestyle block. Wired uplink for one of them. Theoretically perfect conditions.

One of the nodes looks like it's been dropped. But he's got three plus a Dream Machine and I can't get a combination which works reliably for that link. Wishing I'd never recommended the gear.

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