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darkstar09

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  #374562 30-Aug-2010 22:16
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Does the youtube referrer work?



funnyfela
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  #374610 30-Aug-2010 23:58
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Tbh thats what Telecom said killed their plan, people using that to bypass their prioritising.... do we REALLY wanna kill another unlimited plan that might have a chance?




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Detruire
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  #374769 31-Aug-2010 11:14
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No, Slingshot's system doesn't work that way.




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  #374800 31-Aug-2010 11:40
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The L7 DPI kit Slingshot uses for shaping international traffic is top notch as far as I've probed. If national speed goes at near line speed regardless of traffic type on the AYCE plan, then I think that's your best advantage to take and try max. that out.

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  #374942 31-Aug-2010 15:37
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Well i still get pretty bad speeds with Slingshot during peak times even until 12am, and thats on the normal plan. Expect "all you can eat" would be worse. Note that Slingshot doesn't call it "unlimited" at all but I really think they dont have enough international bandwidth.




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wanghou168
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  #374953 31-Aug-2010 15:52
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getting incredibly low speed in the last few days on the 25g pro plan, and I only managed to use 2g out of the 25g for the whole month...
cant really imagine what all you can eat speed is going to be like...




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JacobYaYa
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  #377085 6-Sep-2010 11:02
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Worldnet plan was really good up until about a month ago when they started traffic shaping 24/7 which means you can't do any downloading or watch videos on this plan at more than 20kB/s.  So basically restricted to browsing, email and gaming.  Was nice while it lasted.  Currently trying to weasel my way out of paying ETF and change to another provider. 

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  #377128 6-Sep-2010 13:44
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In summary both Worldnet and Slingshot are terrible currently for both performance and customer service.

Basically you are better off looking at:
- Snap's plans (eg: 25GB) and using the $5 for 3 nights (1am-7am) unlimited feature/addon
- Xnet's Fusion Torrential $1.5 / GB on peak and free 75GB off peak.

 

bellyfrog
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  #377292 6-Sep-2010 22:00
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Well our WorldNet just got activated today and I can tell you it's pretty horrible.

During the afternoon when I was the only one home it was running "ok"... about 30-50kb/s download speeds from hotfile/fileserve and websites were taking longer than usual but not horrible amounts of time to load.

As soon as 6 o clock hit and a few other people in the house logged in, it's a joke. Basically the same kind of performance I had when our internet was reduced to dialup by Telecom for using up all of the Pro plan data.

I have to say, coming to New Zealand recently, it's really horrible trying to adjust to your internet technology. I thought the internet we had in UK was bad (it was compared to rest of europe/USA) but this is just horrible!

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  #377293 6-Sep-2010 22:03
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Yeah my torrent speeds from slingshots have slowed right down. I am getting 14kbs for the last few days on all you can eat. I would starve if I was fed that slow.

Crucius
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  #377492 7-Sep-2010 12:52
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I'm currently preparing to take Worldnet to the disputes tribunal.

Something they only told me after I'd threatened to do so was that packet priority is decreased the more data you use. What this resulted in for me as a heavy user (did 160GB in the last billing month) was that after around 6 the internet became literally unusable. I couldn't log into steam, msn was laggy, webpages were timing out. At times I couldn't even load google. Pings within NZ were around 200-300, and outside NZ over 1000.

They've refused to negotiate, they're not giving a refund and intend to charge a disconnection fee. So yeah, disputes tribunal is my only option.


tl;dr, don't go with worldnet.

As for slingshot, they're having issues with international traffic on all their plans at the moment, but I've heard that local traffic on the AYCE is pretty much line speed. They also said they're allocating 3-4x more international bandwidth per customer than Telecom did on BT, and BT was fine for me speedwise. 

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  #377517 7-Sep-2010 13:50
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Crucius: They also said they're allocating 3-4x more international bandwidth per customer than Telecom did on BT, and BT was fine for me speedwise. 


I find that hard to believe because i dont think Telecom would (in their right mind) publish their international contention ratios at all.
So how would slingshot know what 3-4x is?

But it will still probably be higher than telecom - and slingshot have a nice big huge caching system as well as being pro-peering.




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Cymro
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  #377543 7-Sep-2010 14:47
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raytaylor:
Crucius: They also said they're allocating 3-4x more international bandwidth per customer than Telecom did on BT, and BT was fine for me speedwise. 


I find that hard to believe because i dont think Telecom would (in their right mind) publish their international contention ratios at all.
So how would slingshot know what 3-4x is?

But it will still probably be higher than telecom - and slingshot have a nice big huge caching system as well as being pro-peering.


I'm pretty sure Slingshot said they are allocating 3-4x the UBA backhaul bandwidth in International (so 96-128kbs per user).

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  #377619 7-Sep-2010 18:09
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I'm fairly sure they said 3-4x the int'l bandwidth per customer of those on their own capped plans.




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  #377626 7-Sep-2010 18:37
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Detruire: I'm fairly sure they said 3-4x the int'l bandwidth per customer of those on their own capped plans.


Yep, my memory is getting shonky :)


1.       Telecom currently dimensions their Unbundled Bitstream Access (UBA) network at 45kbps per subscriber.  This is currently in place for all UBA customers regardless of the service provider that is selling the service, and exists on the broadband service we provide today.  We do not believe Telecom should dimension traffic at this rate.  This constraint does not apply to customers on the Slingshot Better Network – as a result it is a better service.  We are continuing to roll out our Better Network nationwide, so more customers can enjoy the benefits of a better network. 

2.       Slingshot All You Can Eat customers have their own pool of International Bandwidth.  This is provisioned at a far greater rate than Telecoms national dimensioning.  All You Can Eat customers have more than 3-4 times the International Bandwidth allocation per subscriber compared with our limited plans.  The logic behind this is straightforward - we expect All You Can Eat customers to be power users and this means significantly longer times online (perhaps even always on!).  As a result, the bandwidth allocated to this pool needs to be considerably more.

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