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#46975 27-Sep-2006 16:56

Hi, I'm new guy here.

I don't think TNZ actually do anything to the heavy traffic users, they may be sent warning letter to those use full speed of traffic 24-7 but is unlikely.

There was many debates around the other countries about restrict to heavy users by ISP but was unsucceful.

It usually better off that let heavy user enjoy their traffic to get more customers than give them a ban.

Anyway 6mbps is very slow traffic in terms of global standard in OECD countries, who actually cares using 6mbps 24-7 in local exchange, oversea traffic usually be thottled.

What NZ broadband really needs are install fiber optic cables while they developing(or redevloping) roads, TRNZ will spend $5b for road, are they install fiber optic cables with it?

At least trans tasman network should considered as local network otherwise NZ will be forgotten pretty soon.

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#46983 27-Sep-2006 17:21

Hi Shin,

welcome on board... Fibre optic is well underway! (though not inconjunction with roading)

throttling already happens, and I see no reason TNZL will stop it... encypting torrents on port 80 should work for now...

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#46997 28-Sep-2006 00:22

Ben:
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How much can I download before I become subject to the Fair Use Policy?
You need to download more than 700MB in any 8 hour peak period which is 4pm to 12am (midnight).

Goodbye legal downloads, like Windows Vista ISO images or Office 2007 Beta files.

Are people really going for an unlimited plan that limits speed of some applications and limits your ability to work?

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#47023 28-Sep-2006 10:18

Felix: Hi Shin,

encypting torrents on port 80 should work for now...

Felix 5ive

Sorry for the side question, but doesn't this severly limit the number of peers that can be connected to... resulting in salower speeds?

Then again its a balancing act.. that or throttled IP Pool :)

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#47025 28-Sep-2006 10:54

Only if you or the peer have a problem keeping up with the encryption rate required.

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#47037 28-Sep-2006 11:45

nzbnw:
Ben:
Xtra:
How much can I download before I become subject to the Fair Use Policy?
You need to download more than 700MB in any 8 hour peak period which is 4pm to 12am (midnight).

Goodbye legal downloads, like Windows Vista ISO images or Office 2007 Beta files.

Are people really going for an unlimited plan that limits speed of some applications and limits your ability to work?

In dialup days gone by, I used download managers (e.g. Getright), so you can specify that every download you recieve gets placed in a queue for downloading whilst you are not using the PC (to leave your limited bandwidth in place while surfing).

I see a temporary renaissance for download managers in NZ coming...

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#47039 28-Sep-2006 11:53

So i just have to start my major downloads before i goto bed, and then check on them before i goto work.

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#47041 28-Sep-2006 12:19

In a way under the new bb plans, we're worse off.

Sure, under the new plans we have potentially higher speeds but if we're to use this so called 'unlimited' plan - how can one call it unlimited if you're only allowed to download x during peak times?

Like the example MF provided - Vista downloads.
How about streaming video/radio? Linux isos.
Most of these legitmate downloads will be in breech of 'fair usage' and pooled together with a bunch of customers either in the same boat or just p2p users and eventually be told we need to switch to a different plan....

Faster, cheaper internet indeed.

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#47050 28-Sep-2006 13:04

cokemaster: In a way under the new bb plans, we're worse off.

Sure, under the new plans we have potentially higher speeds but if we're to use this so called 'unlimited' plan - how can one call it unlimited if you're only allowed to download x during peak times?

Like the example MF provided - Vista downloads.

How about streaming video/radio? Linux isos.

Most of these legitmate downloads will be in breech of 'fair usage' and pooled together with a bunch of customers either in the same boat or just p2p users and eventually be told we need to switch to a different plan....

Faster, cheaper internet indeed.

How many times in a week/month would you download Visata? or Linux? Streaming maybe the only real cause for concern.

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#47053 28-Sep-2006 13:09

It doesn't matter. If you download once only you are already in breach of the Fair Use.

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#47056 28-Sep-2006 13:11

riahon: How many times in a week/month would you download Visata? or Linux? Streaming maybe the only real cause for concern.

I actually had to download 3x, twice for x86 ISO and lastnight for x64 ISO. And that's 10GB.

Luckily I'm on TelstraClear Cable with 20GB per month, however it does eat into my good significant allowance.

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#47063 28-Sep-2006 13:45

So if i breach the fair use terms once, im stuck in the pool of limited speed for the rest of time?

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#47084 28-Sep-2006 18:14

i did 3-4 gb in 4 hours on friday afternoon last week

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#47086 28-Sep-2006 18:40

NokiaRocks: So if i breach the fair use terms once, im stuck in the pool of limited speed for the rest of time?

No, just for 1 week.

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#47092 28-Sep-2006 19:39

I personally cant see what all the fuss is about.

If ya want to use this Go Large plan, and not be put in the 'fair use pool', then just dont do large downloads during peak hours...

I can understand those who work 9 to 5 may want to do thier computing and associated downloading during these hours (4pm to 12am)...but as Tonyhughes pointed out, this may just require the need of and old fashioned download manager, one that not only restarts partial downloads, but also includes a scheduler, so to only download at specific times of the day...

The same go for p2p, as an example, shareaza has a built in scheduler, which I may finally have a use for.

So go hard downloading during 12am to 4pm, then take it easy, and cruise the web at unrestricted speed...its just more structured thats all.

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