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#47095 28-Sep-2006 19:48

Pity Limewire or bitcommet dont have that feature built it.

Felix

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#47097 28-Sep-2006 20:03

i'd rather be throttled than use shearaza

euanandrews

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#47098 28-Sep-2006 20:03

NokiaRocks: Pity Limewire or bitcommet dont have that feature built it.

I would recommend shareaza over limewire due to it can connect to multiple networks, eDonkey, BitTorrent, Gnutella, and Gnutella2 which include the network limewire uses but can also downloads torrents, and can act as a download manager as well.

I thought Azureus also had a scheduler last I looked if ya want a torrent only program...

What I will be looking for now is how to best encrypt my p2p file sharing so maybe it wont be picked up, as mentioned earlier in the post as a possible way of not being picked up, some p2p programs have the feature built in, will have to research...

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#47100 28-Sep-2006 20:05

Felix: i'd rather be throttled than use shearaza

Lol

Fair enough
Each to thier own.

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#47104 28-Sep-2006 20:13

I don't think anyone that downloads large amounts of data via P2P programs has a right to complain about being speed limited.

Since they are more than likely downloading large amounts of illegal files then they are just taking up precious bandwidth.

But there are those of us who do download a lot and legitimately and we shouldnt be penalised for this. If they restricted the amount of bandwidth for P2P programs and left it at that then the problem would be solved.

We go through about 1Gb per day at work and this new plan looked like a valid alternative for us, but we will get hammered by throttling and we cannot afford to have slow download speeds.

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#47106 28-Sep-2006 20:27

bradstewart:
I don't think anyone that downloads large amounts of data via P2P programs has a right to complain about being speed limited.

I agree, and I'm certainly not complaining, even though I do large legal downloads such as the vista iso etc (Im a sucker for betas lol)

bradstewart:
We go through about 1Gb per day at work and this new plan looked like a valid alternative for us, but we will get hammered by throttling and we cannot afford to have slow download speeds.

But at work, would you not be working the standard 9 to 5...excluding a bit off overtime, and not knowing exactly what it is you do...so therfore you would not be throttled as not the peak hours?...
Even if you were doing most of the 1gb in the later part of the day, ya could do 3/4 of ya daily 1gb total and not be throttled...
Or is your business mostly in the afternoon?

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#47108 28-Sep-2006 20:37

A lot of our downloading happens after 4PM when we download backups of our servers etc. So thats going to be a pain

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#47120 28-Sep-2006 23:25

TheBartender:

What I will be looking for now is how to best encrypt my p2p file sharing so maybe it wont be picked up, as mentioned earlier in the post as a possible way of not being picked up, some p2p programs have the feature built in, will have to research...

Azureus has the option to enrypt data.. although make sure you have the latest Java update intalled so it doesn't suck up all your CPU cycles

Shin

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#47121 29-Sep-2006 01:14

Have anyone got an info about internet usage rule like TNZ(and rest of NZ ISPs) on another countries similiar size of NZ?

It would be very interesting how many OECD countries got such policies and how they better(or worse) off than others.

Recently Korean government recognised that IPTV as a official medium of broadcasting, and they're working relevent laws such as rating issue. Now HD(7~13mbps) TV is broadcasting on internet with (virtually) unlimited channels to set-top box which shared household internet connection of 80~100mbps in national wide.

Future is already here but TNZ is acting like coward by some geeks will use all their internet investment into useless porn streaming if they open it up.

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#47125 29-Sep-2006 07:30

Some of the major issues for NZ based suppliers is that a significant amount of traffic comes from overseas - anywhere between 60-80%. All the ISP's must pay for the traffic in the busy hour, and the charges aren't cheap. The volumes we demand are quite small in relation to the rest of the world, so our prices are higher.

For example, the massive overcapacity between London and New York means transit between Europe and the US is almost unmetered. But there's only one link from NZ, and that's to Worldcom in LA.

P2P engines suck bandwidth. Now multiply that up - If 1% of the broadband base in NZ uses P2P (4350 users) that's unfortunate. Multiply up 10% - 44,000 users, which is really high - saturation.

And the most an ISP can get uis $55 a month access for full flat rate? hmmmm.....

IPTV is distributed directly via the ISP's layer, so all the network is locally generated which is much easier to control. Hmmm, imagine what would happen if people in NZ could subscribe to BSKYB UK (excellent content compared to SKY NZ). Distribution issues aside, that WOULD be really exciting....

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#47156 29-Sep-2006 15:07

I see some people disregard bittorrent as a nusiance or illegal - it does consume alot of bandwidth, but it is definately not illegal and it is now an important part of the Internet. If we diddn't have bit-torrent pushing the capacity of our links ISPs would have even less motivation to upgrade and our networks could stagnate even more. I pay my ISP to use bittorrent and the mule network, when they traffic-shape what I'm paying them for - I will have good reason to build a pirate network.

antoniosk: where did you get the idea our only link to the USA is worldcomm?

we have links to Japan, Australia and now Verizon Business capable of providing IPv6 links to Aussie and Seattle (KAREN)

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#47159 29-Sep-2006 16:16

http://www.ispmap.co.nz/topmap.html

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#47161 29-Sep-2006 16:28

NZ doesn't compare to any other countries due to the geographic location Shin... the Korean government subsidise internet, the NZ governmet try to control it with with out investment...

barf

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#47162 29-Sep-2006 16:31

Fraktul: KAREN is not on that map

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Fraktul

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#47163 29-Sep-2006 16:36

You can email the site admin on the nznog list or he uses a unix.co.nz email also. His name is barry so shouldnt be too hard to figure out his email address :)

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