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kiwis

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#279875 14-Nov-2020 08:09

My PC is getting too warm. Especially when the ambient room temperature is higher due to the warmer climate.

Here's my PC specs

Phanteks P360X case
B450 Aorus Pro WIFI motherboard
AMD3600X CPU
RTX 2060 Super GPU
2X HDD 1X SSD

My whole system gets warm but my biggest concern is my GPU.

Does a water cooler only cool the CPU? Is there anything other than more fans?

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#2603604 14-Nov-2020 08:23

You can get water coolers for most high end graphics cards but that might not be your best route.

If you can get the cooling that you need by other means then you have something that will work even if you upgrade your graphics card in the future.

1) Where is the PC? Is it somewhere with poor air circulation - under a desk or stuck in a corner? If it is, can you move it or provide an external fan to blow ambient air over the case so that it is not stuck in a pool of hot stagnant air?

2) Can you fit more fans into the case? Most cases have a few places to fit additional fans.

3) Can you upgrade to a different case with better airflow?

All three of those options will cost less than water-cooling your graphics card and will be applicable if you upgrade later.

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#2603610 14-Nov-2020 08:47

Your case can fit two 120 or 140mm fans front, two more two top, and one at the rear. How many fans do you have and where are they? 140mm fans put more air through than 120mm fans, so they can run slower / quieter.

Noctua do great fans, quiet and effective. There are two kinds of fans generally, from memory pressure and airflow. The pressure ones are good for the front of cases where they're pushing air in. Airflow are good for open air, pulling air from the back or top of the case.

You can use a fan controller you install, where you manually control fan speed, or use PWM fans from your motherboard for automatic fan control. Manual fans are three pin, PWN are four pin. If you have more fans than fan headers I think you can get PWM splitters that lets one fan header run multiple fans.

kiwis

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#2603632 14-Nov-2020 10:17

Cheers for the replies. I found my old system and pulled out an old 120mm fan. I had two but one seems very stiff, likely clogged up.

On a very quick system run using FurMark it appears to be running slightly cooler.

I mounted this one the top as I have a fan at the front and the vent on the top is larger than the front of the case.

I'm wondering now

1) How can I mount a second fan on the top? I cannot get my fingers into SYS_FAN1 (Page 5 of manual) can you get a dual connector so I can plug both into SYS_FAN2

2) I could buy a new double fan perhaps even dual 140mm fans and mount them to the top? - any recommendations?

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b450-aorus-pro-wifi_1002_e_190528.pdf

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#2603678 14-Nov-2020 12:41

how do you know its running hot? and what do you deem is hot?

use the front fans as an intake, the top and rear as an exhaust.

buy a 2 or 3 pack of case fans and install them and you should be fine.

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#2603699 14-Nov-2020 13:40

Jase2985:

how do you know its running hot? and what do you deem is hot?

use the front fans as an intake, the top and rear as an exhaust.

buy a 2 or 3 pack of case fans and install them and you should be fine.

I'm using tools such as CPUID HWMonitor?

The temps vary depending on what I'm doing. I only have 2 fans now. One is on the CPU mount, so I know I could do with more.

Is there a way of plugging multiple fans into the one jack on the motherboard? something like a double pin jack connector?

kiwis

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#2603700 14-Nov-2020 13:48

Assume this will work with most fans

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABSTT1822410/StarTech-FAN4SPLIT12-12-4Pin-PWM-Fan-Extension-Pow

kiwis

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#2603702 14-Nov-2020 13:55

So thinking about these two?

Any comments or thoughts?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABSTT1604425/StarTech-TX3SPLIT12-12in-TX3-Fan-Power-Splitter-Ca

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/FANCOR9050096/Corsair-SP-RGB-PRO-140-Dual-Fan-Pack-SP140-RGB-PRO

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#2603712 14-Nov-2020 14:21

Unless you need rgb go for something like this, cheeper and will do pretty much the same job.
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/FANCRG0143/CRYORIG-QF140-Performance-PWM-Fan-140mm-600-1850RP

Also you would want a 4 pin to 4 pin y cable like this
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SEVOEM9576/OEM-4-Pin-PWM-To-2-x-4-Pin--3-Pin-Cable-Y-Splitter

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#2603717 14-Nov-2020 14:32

Is it throttling? That is when it is too hot and worth adding more cooling to. Otherwise if its still getting good speeds and is reliable then IMO no point making it noisier just to get lower numbers.

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#2603721 14-Nov-2020 14:55

Jase2985: Unless you need rgb go for something like this, cheeper and will do pretty much the same job.
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/FANCRG0143/CRYORIG-QF140-Performance-PWM-Fan-140mm-600-1850RP

Also you would want a 4 pin to 4 pin y cable like this
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SEVOEM9576/OEM-4-Pin-PWM-To-2-x-4-Pin--3-Pin-Cable-Y-Splitter

Oh cheers, narr don't really care for the rgb.

That cable is out of stock. Not 100% sure what I'm after. Is there something in stock?

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#2603722 14-Nov-2020 14:57

Jase2985: Unless you need rgb go for something like this, cheeper and will do pretty much the same job.
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/FANCRG0143/CRYORIG-QF140-Performance-PWM-Fan-140mm-600-1850RP

Also you would want a 4 pin to 4 pin y cable like this
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SEVOEM9576/OEM-4-Pin-PWM-To-2-x-4-Pin--3-Pin-Cable-Y-Splitter

Found this 3 way splitter

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/components/watercooling/accessories/ekwb-ek-cable-y-splitter-3-fan-pwm-black-10cm?gclid=Cj0KCQiA-rj9BRCAARIsANB_4ABLwpMHKyHru2KEGj5i_dYCC3smnNFgBr9_I4ZWQssBK1aWHTdXRmwaAgFeEALw_wcB

My current fan uses 3 pins. Can I still use this and get two more 4pin fans?

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#2603724 14-Nov-2020 15:02

There are a few other brands ones available on the pbtech site. Just get one that supports 3 and 3 pin fans

You still haven't told us your temps or of it's throttling.

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#2603725 14-Nov-2020 15:06

Jase2985: There are a few other brands ones available on the pbtech site. Just get one that supports 3 and 3 pin fans

You still haven't told us your temps or of it's throttling.

Not sure what throttling is.

Temps vary depending on the room temp and what I'm doing.

I have 1 front fan and one CPU fan. I'm well aware it's likely not enough for starters which is why I'm looking.

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#2603730 14-Nov-2020 15:34

How do you know the temps you are seeing are too high? Could you post them up?

Throttling is when the component is too hot it reduces it's speed to keep it cooler.

A start would be to put the fan from the front onto the rear to act as an exhaust. Would be more effective than the one on the front as an intake

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#2604380 15-Nov-2020 20:27

Yea please let us know what your temperatures are, specifically the ones you’re concerned about. Both your CPU and GPU are fine up to 90 degrees. If you’re hovering around 85 or so then I can understand the concern as they’ll start thermal throttling a bit.

That case is likely the reason you won’t be getting decent intake. If you take the solid front off then you won’t have as much obstruction, but dust is a concern if you don’t filter it.

Recommendation as usual is two on the front as intake and one rear and one up top at the back as exhaust. Have the front two set faster or have bigger fans for positive pressure in the case.

If your gpu or cpu is still hitting over 85 when doing things, consider undervolting them. This will lower power usage for the same performance. A good example is your Turing GPU can lower voltage to 0.900-.950 volts and run at 1850-1950MHz clocks without change in performance.