Does K solely mean you can overclock it? 

joker97:

 

Does K solely mean you can overclock it? 

 

Pretty much,

generally accepted to be higher binned chips as well with more headroom for overclocking (as people would likely be upset spending ~$100 more on the K version only to find it maxed out at default clocks)

Dairyxox:

 

Its a pretty big price difference too. The E (HEDT) platform (CPU, MOBO, MEMORY) costs about 3x as much.

 

Personally I'd go for the highest model Skylake, then upgrade again in ~12-18 months time. It would still probably cost less.

 

That makes sense. I just had another look at the core speeds, and wow the Es have much lower clock speeds!

Unfortunately for Lightroom 6 (Not sure about latest PS) multithreading CPU and use GPU is still in its infancy and performance still rely on single core clock speed.

joker97:

 

Does K solely mean you can overclock it? 

 

To be exact, the answer is no. As you already know, K one can easily overclock, but the stock frequency for 6700 is 3.4/4.0Ghz and 6700K is 4.0/4.2Ghz, also the integrated graphic performance have about 5% of difference. But the speed difference is not worth the price difference, and if you consider that in order to overclock, you want slightly more expensive Z170 motherboard vs the H170. 

I am still debate myself about whether I should get a K cpu or non-K one, as I want the slightly better performance and probably want a Z170 motherboard for more feature, but not planning to overclock my system. 

Thanks. and i5 means no hyperthread vs i7 means hyperthread? (for skylake)

joker97:

 

Thanks. and i5 means no hyperthread vs i7 means hyperthread? (for skylake)

 

i7 - 4-8 real cores (currently) with Hyperthreading

i5 - 4 real cores - no Hyperthreading

i3 - 2 real cores - with Hyperthreading.

Anything else - no Hyopertherading.

Note: this is for desktop CPUs. Laptop CPUs can have fewer cores. e.g. i5 can have 2 cores. etc.

thanks

So hyperthreading means allowing one real CPU core to do more than one thing whereas no hyperthreading means one core can only do one thing at a time?

joker97:

 

So hyperthreading means allowing one real CPU core to do more than one thing whereas no hyperthreading means one core can only do one thing at a time?

 

Pretty much like that - to an extent.

Hyperthreading is supposed to give around 15-20% extra performance overall.

A hyperthreaded CPU will show double the number virtual cores as real cores in Windows Task Manager.

JWR:

 

joker97:

 

So hyperthreading means allowing one real CPU core to do more than one thing whereas no hyperthreading means one core can only do one thing at a time?

 

 

 

 

Pretty much like that - to an extent.

 

Hyperthreading is supposed to give around 15-20% extra performance overall.

 

A hyperthreaded CPU will show double the number virtual cores as real cores in Windows Task Manager.

 

So if I have 4 cores and I click on lots of stuff at the same time (coz that's how I am) ... i7

joker97:

 

JWR:

 

joker97:

 

So hyperthreading means allowing one real CPU core to do more than one thing whereas no hyperthreading means one core can only do one thing at a time?

 

 

 

 

Pretty much like that - to an extent.

 

Hyperthreading is supposed to give around 15-20% extra performance overall.

 

A hyperthreaded CPU will show double the number virtual cores as real cores in Windows Task Manager.

 

 

So if I have 4 cores and I click on lots of stuff at the same time (coz that's how I am) ... i7

 

Yes. Comparing an i7 to an i5. The i7 is better at running more things at once, because of hyperthreading and more level 3 cache. e.g. i5 6600k (Skylake) - 6MB cache, i7 6700k (Skylake)8MB cache, i7 5820k (Haswell-E) 15 MB cache, Core i7-5960X (Haswell-E) 20MB cache. I would guess the new Broadwell-E's will have even more cache.

Just been reading up on a few things - i6700K is not really overclockable by much!

i wonder what kalby-lake will be like - will it have more than 4 cores? skylake is supposed to have 4/2/4 core configuration - what does that mean?

1- what is the future of X99 motherboards?

2- when will i be able to get 200 series z170 motherboards?

So confusing!

given the haswell chips have been superseded by the skylake ones and in the next year or so they will be superceeded again I would suspect when that happens there will be little in the way of advancement in that area.

the z170 is the chipset, so if its a chipset upgrade to a z?200 chipset then its not likely to be a z170 motherboard :) articles say late this year for its release

New CPUs really aren't that much faster than my 4+ year old i7, according to some benchmarks. Debating exactly which model or future direction is probably a bit pointless, they're all so similar.

That i7-2600k is actually 5 years old. I bought one in January 2011 when they were released. It was so powerful at the time, I had it for 2 years and never even scratched the surface of what I could do with it. I even overclocked it to 4.2 Ghz stable. It got up to 4.5 or 4.6 but did crash a little. I found 4.2 was pretty sweet.

Im currently in the exact same situation as the OP. Kids are a bit older, and I finally have the time to game again. And no we are not having any more kids. SO not having a desktop for the last 3 years was never really an issue, since I didnt play any games and only used my i7 laptop for development, web browsing, watching videos and a few apps. 

Anyhow I am now looking at buying a new PC to play Doom and Overwatch and a few other new titles that are just on the horizon. 

So I priced up a skylake i5-6600k, its about $1100 plus a graphics card. (case/psu/mobo/cpu/new ssd and 16GB ram). I am thinking about getting a GTX 1070 when they are released since they are good bang for buck. But a whole heap of people are saying what are you doing with this i5 rubbish, get an I7 blah blah blah. 

The way I see it, that LGA 1151 motherboard is supposed to even house the next 2 revision of intel processors the skylake, kaby lake and cannonlake. So if the processor is an issue (which I don't think it will be) then there is room to upgrade it later. Also the cpu can be replaced if I need to. 

I don't see the point in spending $200 more on an i7 at this stage. What ya rekon?