Microsoft promises w10 mobile & then throws you under the bus

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#1517039 21-Mar-2016 16:30

I jumped ship to Android last week, and bought the Smart Ultra. I've been on WP since 7, with an HTC Trophy, then the Samsung Omnia W, then various Lumias, most recently the 1020 and 640XL.

I am now able to Semble, and Chromecast, and install the app for my mobile provider, power company, wifi-enabled camera, local radio station etc etc.

My 640XL will get the upgrade, but I'm just not that interested in the environment anymore.

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#1517043 21-Mar-2016 16:34

Lias:

Windows phone is the corporate standard at my current employer, and also my last two employers, and those are all 1000+ user enterprises.

Android and Apple are simply not designed for use by business/enterprise.

Windows phone is the corporate standard at my current employer also. But, as the guy who has a lot of say in that standard, there's a good chance it will change inside the next 12 months.

I like Windows Phone, but it just keeps getting harder to keep liking it.

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#1517076 21-Mar-2016 17:32

andrew027:

Lias: Windows phone is the corporate standard at my current employer, and also my last two employers, and those are all 1000+ user enterprises.

Android and Apple are simply not designed for use by business/enterprise.

And yet the last two big organisations I have worked for (one a very large government department) and the one my wife works for now all have Apple as their corporate standard.

Yeah most banks seem to be Apple now. And lots of government.

My work phone is still a BlackBerry....

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#1517128 21-Mar-2016 18:37

A lot of people make a fuss about WP8 not being available for WP7s, or WP10 not being available for some WP8s and it does suck if you're in that boat. However both Apple and Android routinely leave both old and new devices bound, gagged and covered in nicotine patches on the side of the street.

I bought a Samsung Tab 4 within 6 months of it being available, it was superseeded by the new Tab S line and abandoned. It still hasn't received Android 5. My Galaxy S2 was abandoned before the S3 came out.

It's par for the course for this industry sadly

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#1517324 22-Mar-2016 06:13

CruciasNZ:

A lot of people make a fuss about WP8 not being available for WP7s, or WP10 not being available for some WP8s and it does suck if you're in that boat. However both Apple and Android routinely leave both old and new devices bound, gagged and covered in nicotine patches on the side of the street.

I bought a Samsung Tab 4 within 6 months of it being available, it was superseeded by the new Tab S line and abandoned. It still hasn't received Android 5. My Galaxy S2 was abandoned before the S3 came out.

It's par for the course for this industry sadly

But with android there are other options, My galaxy S4 is running the latest version of android, ( and very well i might add ), thanks to all those dedicated coders. I doubt that option will be available to windows phone

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#1517346 22-Mar-2016 08:15

GregV:

I am now able to Semble, and Chromecast, and install the app for my mobile provider, power company, wifi-enabled camera, local radio station etc etc.

that's only because those companies are cheapo lazy bastards

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#1517383 22-Mar-2016 09:18

GregV: I am now able to Semble...

You can use an activated Semble SIM in both Windows NFC phones and even Blackberry BB10 NFC handsets as they use industry standard single-wire-protocol. The trick is to download using a supported Android handset and switch to always on.

( caveat, had problems with Vodafone Semble SIM in some WP devices, Spark and 2degrees no problem ).

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#1517386 22-Mar-2016 09:23

Athlonite:

GregV:

I am now able to Semble, and Chromecast, and install the app for my mobile provider, power company, wifi-enabled camera, local radio station etc etc.

that's only because those companies are cheapo lazy bastards

Or, in reality, there's nothing compelling at all about developing something on a dying platform.

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#1517398 22-Mar-2016 09:51

JamesL:
Athlonite:

GregV:

I am now able to Semble, and Chromecast, and install the app for my mobile provider, power company, wifi-enabled camera, local radio station etc etc.

that's only because those companies are cheapo lazy bastards

Or, in reality, there's nothing compelling at all about developing something on a dying platform.

Windows phone maybe dead, but it's successor isn't :)

Windows 10 already has 250+ million users, well on its way to having a billion users in 2-3 years

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#1517399 22-Mar-2016 09:51

This was actually one of the original selling points to Windows phone for me.

Microsoft always pitched it as a supported OS which would be constantly updated, this was quite compelling with a fragmented Android OS at the time and Apple being the only other alternative.

Unfortunately Microsoft came along and did what they do best, they created a new version and ditched support for the current devices at the time (Windows phone 7 -> Windows phone 8). So in their small ecosystem they got rid of everything developers had built and fragmented their OS (which was their main selling point). Again they are doing this with Windows 10.

I left the Microsoft system when I realized Apple were more open than Microsoft. There is a underlying push towards a Microsoft only system in their OS, to the point that they have deliberately hidden support for open source protocols which would allow the connection with competitors email platforms natively.

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#1517419 22-Mar-2016 10:26

If you want software updates for a decent amount of time, your only real choices are a Nexus device or iPhone. Heck, even the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S from 2011 have the latest OS

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#1517424 22-Mar-2016 10:31

Yea, the 53 impacted users are really upset I hear.

I saw a Windows Phone here in Napier recently. Sure, it was smashed up on the ground and didn't turn on. But still, was nice to see what they looked like.

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#1517464 22-Mar-2016 11:17

I believe that in five years many will be begging MS not to release Windows 11 and that they want to stay with the awesome Win 10, that includes mobile

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1517485 22-Mar-2016 11:19

I would gladly go back to using Windows mobile if there were Apps for BNZ, Cooperative Bank and a few others I cant think of right now

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1517504 22-Mar-2016 12:02

I bought a Windows phone last year for testing a multi-platform app I'm involved in developing. I immediately upgraded to Windows Mobile 10 preview which is a great advance over 8. For a $75 phone it has been a pleasure to use - so far it has been very responsive.

I would make it my main phone except that I have the same problem: I would lose my Vodafone app (which I use to administer six of the phones in the family) and other useful apps.

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