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Ultimate Geek

#445443 4-Mar-2011 10:32

yup same thing happened to me. Wasnt really sure what the little cross thing was trying to indicate but just left it alone and it came right

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#445463 4-Mar-2011 11:36

I just updated my HTC Trophy via Zune without a hitch

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#445663 4-Mar-2011 21:16

Got my HTC updated yesterday, took a good 30 mins to get through step 6... Hopefully the next one comes soon, im missing not having copy/paste

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#445675 4-Mar-2011 22:12

The time it takes depends on how much content is loaded. Zune desktop will make a backup, just in case...

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#445745 5-Mar-2011 10:47

No sign of an update on my LG Optimus 7 on Vodafone - even after manually checking while plugged in.

I get "Can't check for updates right now. Please try again lager. An unexpected error has occurred 8000FFFF". The web help link provided below the error is not very helpful at all ;)

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#445746 5-Mar-2011 10:55

Looks like HTC have released their own update which is going to some devices through the normal Zune update process, possibly to update the firmware and radio software...didn't realise OEMs were going to be able to do this.

http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-pushing-out-an-update-for-their-windows-phones/

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#445772 5-Mar-2011 12:13

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#445820 5-Mar-2011 17:17

So it looks like that AT&T devices (specially samsung focus) will not only get this small update but also the No-Do update which has copy and paste coming monday US time ( early Tuesday in NZ)

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#446801 8-Mar-2011 21:10

Did you end up getting the update? It's still not available for my Omnia 7

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#447538 11-Mar-2011 13:23

I have just given word that my description of the update process is quite close to how it goes. Here's how Windows Phone 7 updates happen:

Consider Windows Phone 7 devices having two major attributes. The hardware, Samsung Focus, HTC HD7, etc, and the marketing carrier, T-Mobile, Orange, etc. The second attribute can be Null. This leads to distinct types. A Rogers Samsung Focus is different than an AT&T Samsung Focus.

Microsoft generates an update for each distinct type. These update packages are queued up and sent to the carrier for evaluation. We won't go into what the carrier does or doesn't do to test the release. When the time comes for the update to be delivered, those devices that the carrier has OK'd, are available. For Null carrier devices, the update is just available.

Periodically each device queries the Microsoft servers to see if an update is availabele. If both MS and the carrier have approved, a notification is delivered to the device, and the user is instructed on getting the update. That involves hooking the device to a Zune equipped PC via USB, and the update process is accomplished between the device and MS. Nothing to do with the carrier at this point.

Notice I hadn't mentioned SIM either. Makes no difference what SIM is in a device for this process. An AT&T LG Quantum with a T-Mobile SIM in it is still an AT&T LG Quantum. It will get the notification when AT&T approves it for the Quantum. The device speaks to the MS update server as an AT&T LG Quantum, over the data path available, whether that is a T-Mobile Edge connection due to the SIM, or a home COMCAST provided WiFi connection.

Notice that last line. A device can be updated even with no SIM at all. If there is no SIM in my Rogers SAMSUNG Focus, the device can still query the MS server via WiFi, and IF Rogers has OK'd the update for the Focus, here it comes.

Notice too that MS has the option of flipping their half of the ‘available’ switch off, if something goes awry, and they can do it by device type/carrier. They could do it for all Samsung Foci (plural of focus), regardless of carrier, or all AT&T devices regardless of manufacturer. There is that granularity built in.

The thing to remember is the combination of device type and marketing carrier (branding) is baked into the device. AFAIK that isn't changeable. I don't think you can make an AT&T Samsung Focus report itself as a Rogers Samsung Focus. I have a T-Mobile branded HD7, so I am waiting for T-Mobile to give the go ahead for their HD7s. Once they have, T-Mobile is pretty much out of the upgrade picture, for this upgrade. My device speaks directly to the MS update server, to see if the update is available, produced by Microsoft AND validated by T-Mobile. Then my device deals directly with the MS server for the update.

Also, some more information is available in a Windows Phone blog post released today.

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Master Geek

#447547 11-Mar-2011 14:18

Good to know, thanks Mauricio. Bit frustrating that even though I have no association with Vodafone (apart from buying the handset from them) that they decide when I get updates. Guess its no big deal though, can't see them holding back updates for long.

I'm not really into jailbraking etc, but if anyone finds an easy way remove the branding that'd be cool (my phone is developer unlocked). Maybe the XDA guys will find a way.

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#447549 11-Mar-2011 14:20

Still no luck.

Prior to others successfully getting their phone update, was anyone getting the "8000FFFF" error message? (as opposed to some other 'No update available' friendly message?)

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#447550 11-Mar-2011 14:21

Nope. always got "Your phone is up to date" until it received the small update.

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#447555 11-Mar-2011 14:39

btw the No-Do update will now come in 2nd half of March for everyone now. The update has been approved by all carriers worldwide.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#450031 20-Mar-2011 13:26

I brought in a Mozart 16Gb tied through to the german T-mobile company. Was getting very frustrated waiting for T-mobile.de to approve the update so took the plunge and flashed an unbranded european rom - all sweet now. Copy and paste up and running, and hopefully will never be tied to a telco for upgrades again. (or I may be completely stuffed and relying on leaked roms forever, I'll find out when the big upddate with ie9, silverlight etc comes alter in the year)

All via those clever folk at xda developers.

If anyone has the same phone (i got it via mobicity.co.nz) then her is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239

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