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vulcannz

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#1671277 15-Nov-2016 13:10

LucyStan:

After the Wifi router revolution, network switch aren't that common anymore.

That is a pretty silly thing to say. Wifi will never replace wired, it is not as reliable and is a contended medium.

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#1671324 15-Nov-2016 13:58

vulcannz:

LucyStan:

After the Wifi router revolution, network switch aren't that common anymore.

That is a pretty silly thing to say. Wifi will never replace wired, it is not as reliable and is a contended medium.

To be honest if they are looking for 12-port switches I am not surprised they are hard to find haha.

8-port gigabit switches can be picked up for $30-$40 from pretty much anywhere.

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#1672202 16-Nov-2016 16:10

Just to follow on from my earlier message, what kind of wireless AP should I look at? I keep hearing about Ubiquiti Unifi APs, which are the top three access points on Pricespy and seem to be good devices. It looks like the basic 2.4ghz AP is about $138 (or about $100 shipped from Amazon), but are they worth trying to pick up second-hand on Trademe, and what sort of price would be reasonable for a second-hand Unifi AP?

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#1672205 16-Nov-2016 16:19

Personally I'm in love with my E400s from Cambium, Although they are certainly on the expensive side of things.

Ubiquiti are also good products.

If your looking to go out for APs, Do it right, go for decent products off the bat. 5ghz ac to future-proof as well.

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#1672335 16-Nov-2016 19:47

Lizard1977:

Just to follow on from my earlier message, what kind of wireless AP should I look at? I keep hearing about Ubiquiti Unifi APs, which are the top three access points on Pricespy and seem to be good devices. It looks like the basic 2.4ghz AP is about $138 (or about $100 shipped from Amazon), but are they worth trying to pick up second-hand on Trademe, and what sort of price would be reasonable for a second-hand Unifi AP?

Do not waste your time on the old 2.4GHz only unifi, or the old pro or the old square AC one which runs hot and is way slower than the new ones.

You need AC, unless you want your wifi to limp along being the slowest link in the chain by 2 orders of magnitude in some cases.

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#1672610 17-Nov-2016 10:43

richms:

Do not waste your time on the old 2.4GHz only unifi, or the old pro or the old square AC one which runs hot and is way slower than the new ones.

You need AC, unless you want your wifi to limp along being the slowest link in the chain by 2 orders of magnitude in some cases.

Makes sense. So the starting point for Ubiquiti would be this?

https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lite/

PB Tech have these for about $190, (Amazon are selling them for about $130NZD, if I could ship it via YouShop). Is there a better option for the same or less?

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#1673505 18-Nov-2016 11:40

shk292:

I have various 5-port and 8-port switches daisy-chained to do the same job as OP is describing. It's not best LAN design, but works perfectly well.

I think you'll get a neater job with smaller switches local to the devices than one 16-port one star-wired to everything

Yeah, as you say don't daisychain them. Any secondary switch is best star wired to a central gigabit switch or directly to the router, assuming the router also has gigabit ports.

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#1673716 18-Nov-2016 16:33

webwat:

shk292:

I have various 5-port and 8-port switches daisy-chained to do the same job as OP is describing. It's not best LAN design, but works perfectly well.

I think you'll get a neater job with smaller switches local to the devices than one 16-port one star-wired to everything

Yeah, as you say don't daisychain them. Any secondary switch is best star wired to a central gigabit switch or directly to the router, assuming the router also has gigabit ports.

It's always fun at gatherings to see whos silly enough to connect two unmanaged switches together with multiple links and wonder why they just broke everything too. Limiting daisychaining really goes a fair way to catching this before it happens!

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#1675358 22-Nov-2016 09:04

Any comments on the Ubiquiti AC-Lite vs other options?

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#1675378 22-Nov-2016 09:49

hio77:

It's always fun at gatherings to see whos silly enough to connect two unmanaged switches together and wonder why they just broke everything too. Limiting daisychaining really goes a fair way to catching this before it happens!

Could you elaborate? Nothing I have ever read or done indicates that connecting two switches - managed or unmanaged - is going to break anything. I agree that (obviously) the maximum throughput of a downstream switch is that of its upstream connection, but this is rarely a problem in a domestic environment.

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#1675394 22-Nov-2016 10:15

shk292:

hio77:

It's always fun at gatherings to see whos silly enough to connect two unmanaged switches together and wonder why they just broke everything too. Limiting daisychaining really goes a fair way to catching this before it happens!

Could you elaborate? Nothing I have ever read or done indicates that connecting two switches - managed or unmanaged - is going to break anything. I agree that (obviously) the maximum throughput of a downstream switch is that of its upstream connection, but this is rarely a problem in a domestic environment.

was in comment to webwat as per the quote.

Two unmanaged switches connected together twice over will cause broadcast swarms that will eventually essentially ddos itself.

I did miss the word Twice in that post however accidentally. which did make it make no sense.

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