Dual Vlan 10's on Mikrotik

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#2204306 24-Mar-2019 15:02

hio77:

Its literally just cascading interfaces.

As in:

Interfaces > Vlan > Add new

Vlan100 / ID 100 / Interface: ethX

and

Interfaces > Vlan > Add new

Vlan10 / ID 10 / Interface: Vlan100

To have an outer ID of 100 and a Vlan of 10?

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#2206469 28-Mar-2019 18:25

@hio77

I have tried cascading interfaces, for example, vlan10 inside vlan11, however it isn't quite working. I'm thinking the issue may be related to 'breaking' out vlan10 at the switch end. I need to have this vlan10 at port SFP1 and tag packets from this port as vlan10.

Do you have any further pointers to offer please?

Present setup:

Router with PPPoE client on vlan10.

Vlan10 through bonding trunk interface to switch.

Bridge1 includes Vlan10 and other Vlans.

SFP port is member of Vlan10 with tagging under bridge/vlan settings and and PVID set as 10 under port settings.

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#2206471 28-Mar-2019 18:37

I'll try to dig out winbox tonight and snap you some shots...

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#2207091 29-Mar-2019 13:58

Well this is far from ideal

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=147076

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#2207117 29-Mar-2019 14:48

darylblake:

Well this is far from ideal

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=147076

Ouch. Thanks for posting.

I do have IPV6.

My router rebooted for no reason a few days ago. I wonder if it's related to this.

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#2207120 29-Mar-2019 14:53

I'm suddenly really glad we haven't scrambled to offer our customers ipv6 - what a nightmare.

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#2207125 29-Mar-2019 15:08

Considering how broken IPv6 is in RouterOS I'm really surprised anybody has it working.

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#2207129 29-Mar-2019 15:14

sbiddle:
Considering how broken IPv6 is in RouterOS I'm really surprised anybody has it working.

I've been surprised at the amount of WISPs overseas who have things like dominant v6 networks with tik routers - seems that most people in the wisp business are mad

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#2207132 29-Mar-2019 15:17

toejam316:
I've been surprised at the amount of WISPs overseas who have things like dominant v6 networks with tik routers - seems that most people in the wisp business are mad

I say this in the nicest way - one has be a little bit mad to be in the WISP business ;-)

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#2207142 29-Mar-2019 15:41

I would just get two Draytek DV130 modems and bridge the IP to each interface of the router. This would take out all the fun with VLAN clashes, or just do one interface like this.

You can get them quite cheap as people are moving to fibre, and they are also reasonably priced as new.

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#2207148 29-Mar-2019 15:57

Just a thought would double tagging the data be the best way to achieve it?

Have WAN1 on VLAN 20, then setup a PPPoE / DHCP on VLAN20.10

Have WAN2 on VLAN 30, then setup a PPPoE / DHCP on VLAN30.10

Not sure how you do this specifically on the Mikrotiks but I know that's how I have done it on Cisco and Lucent gear in the past.

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#2207160 29-Mar-2019 16:31

In Tik you can create a vlan with a master interface of any other interface (Including another vlan for Q-in-Q).

I call the interfaces "X.Y - Interface Purpose - X.Y" where - X = Interface Number and Y = VLAN Number

Hmmmm

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#2207910 30-Mar-2019 22:19

engedib:

I would just get two Draytek DV130 modems and bridge the IP to each interface of the router. This would take out all the fun with VLAN clashes, or just do one interface like this.

You can get them quite cheap as people are moving to fibre, and they are also reasonably priced as new.

I think I will do this. The 5311 SFP is an elegent option for 1 VDSL connection but for 2 or more it is very annoying.

To confirm - I run them as bridges and can still use the PPPoE client on the Mikrotik?

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#2207954 30-Mar-2019 22:46

MichaelNZ:

engedib:

I would just get two Draytek DV130 modems and bridge the IP to each interface of the router. This would take out all the fun with VLAN clashes, or just do one interface like this.

You can get them quite cheap as people are moving to fibre, and they are also reasonably priced as new.

I think I will do this. The 5311 SFP is an elegent option for 1 VDSL connection but for 2 or more it is very annoying.

To confirm - I run them as bridges and can still use the PPPoE client on the Mikrotik?

You won't need the PPPoE client on the Mikrotik.

Some additional detail is here: https://www.draytek.com/support/knowledge-base/5367

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#2207955 30-Mar-2019 22:51

engedib:

You won't need the PPPoE client on the Mikrotik.

Some additional detail is here: https://www.draytek.com/support/knowledge-base/5367

Thanks for that link.

Put another way, can I choose to keep how I currently have it, running PPPoE on the Mikrotik and just use the Draytek DV130 as a pure bridge?

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