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  #2728102 13-Jun-2021 18:39
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You could just do the speedtests between computers within your network using the likes of iperf.





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  #2728106 13-Jun-2021 18:43
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You can also test within the local network to a machine on GbE using something like iperf, although that's easier on Linux.


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  #2728201 14-Jun-2021 08:17
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Asteros:

 

Thanks Steve, I hear what you're saying and I understand from reading previous GZ posts that speed tests are tricky to draw conclusions from about wifi speeds.

 

I'm on Spark. Out of curiosity, I have ordered Fibre Max (up to 900 Mbps) to remove that bottle neck and will continue testing once it's been installed. I look forward to reporting back.

 

 

 

 

Such a minor difference isn't enough to draw any sort of conclusion about the performance - and without knowing the PHY rates of the client on both radios when the test was being performed you can't draw any conclusions from it.

 

Wireless doesn't cope well with packet loss and retries, so conducting a TCP speedtest which will saturate your UFB connection meaning traffic is either policed by your RSP or Chorus, and has the potential to deliver slightly different results across different brands of access points.

 

If you want to be testing performance you need to have a faster connection or as mentioned run iperf locally on your network and test to that.

 

Your biggest limitation is that your client radio is only 2x2 so you're only going to get pretty average speeds anyway - you're certainly not going to get anywhere near the 700Mbps or so that this AP is capable of with a 4x4 client.

 

 




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  #2729865 16-Jun-2021 21:53
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Hi I've completed testing with Fibre Max (940 Mb/s) now installed. Both access points are performing well and are within the specifications described in the previous posts. Testing the access points has been an interesting process, and it's surprising how even 1 normal Gib board wall can affect Wifi speeds now I have a faster wired line speed. Thanks for the help!


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  #2729873 16-Jun-2021 22:35
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I have found out that my speeds are better on a 5GHz 40MHz wide channel than 80Mhz wide.Also unlocking the DFS spectrum has worked well as most ISP supplied one stick to the 32-64 or 149-165 range.

For some reason SNR takes a huge hit when I try to bond all three.

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  #2730537 18-Jun-2021 10:10
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Hi, out of curiosity how do people obtain 700-800 Mbps on AC 2x2 devices? Do they use 160 MHz channels?

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  #2730550 18-Jun-2021 10:45
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I got *close* to 800Mbit on a 80MHz channel, Wireless AX on a 2x2 access point.

 

You're not going to get those sorts of speeds on a 2x2 AC device. And using 160MHz channels will make everyone around you very grumpy with you for taking a large chunk of the spectrum (also will likely not do you any favors in terms of performance either).

 

Read this: https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html





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  #2730583 18-Jun-2021 11:50
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Thanks, I’ve been obtaining speeds on my 2x2 AC 80MHz devices matching the information on that Duckware site. I might have misread other peoples’ threads here and confused PHY with transfer speed.

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  #2730584 18-Jun-2021 11:50
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Asteros: Hi, out of curiosity how do people obtain 700-800 Mbps on AC 2x2 devices? Do they use 160 MHz channels?

 

Yes you would need to be using 160MHz channels which will give you a PHY rate of 1733.3 

 

In the real world nobody uses 160MHz channels though for obvious reasons, and certainly in an average home it's totally pointless since you'd have very poor coverage unless you were planning on an AP in every room. That then poses re-use issues which will impact performance.

 

 

 

 


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  #2730587 18-Jun-2021 11:54
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mAYH3M: I have found out that my speeds are better on a 5GHz 40MHz wide channel than 80Mhz wide.Also unlocking the DFS spectrum has worked well as most ISP supplied one stick to the 32-64 or 149-165 range.

For some reason SNR takes a huge hit when I try to bond all three.

 

Unless you're in the same room as the AP you're testing (and more importantly all clients are in the same room as well) that's totally normal. You get a lower power output using 80MHz so coverage is reduced.

 

 


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Hi I’ve swapped the Aruba Instant on AP 15 for a Ruckus R510.

The R510 has a faster top speed 650Mbps and higher average speed >500 Mbps on a single floor in my house. The AP15 maxes out at 460Mbps and the average speed is 300 Mbps. All tested via Iperf3.

All Internet speed tests give similar results The Aruba gets D quality scores vs A or A+ for the Ruckus on the dslreports.com speed test.

I don’t know if the Instant On AP 15 has been compromised to meet a price point vs the Aruba AP 315 but this is my experience with a 2021 MacBook M1 Air and a 2021 Dell Vostro 5410.

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