I need to make it so that someone can't use the net, or they get it real slow.

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#391853 14-Oct-2010 16:30

I be leave the Mac Address filtering will not work because if he as access to the router he can push the reset button and get in. I had a similar problem so what I did was i made a box for the router that was lockable and then I got wireless cards for all the computers that will connect to the router. Then I used WPA2 encryption on the wireless network with a 64 bit hexadecimal key. The box had just enough room for the cables to get in and it has some little vents in it for air flow.

This Solved my problem no more stealing my bandwidth.

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#391858 14-Oct-2010 16:33

jonb: Remember to change the password to the router, won't take him long to do a quick search to find the default password and undo all your good work. What would happen if he reset the router when finds out he's blocked?

Yea i have changed the password.
Hmmmm, when you reset it it does a factory reset, which would mean all the settings go too, right? So it shouldn't say he has been blocked.
If I still give him net and don't completely block him off I don't think he will get too suspicious.

ryon

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#391862 14-Oct-2010 16:36

magu:
ryon:?10 people live here sharing the internet.

Sounds like a good idea then to add a firewall box to do proper traffic shaping.?

Firewall Box?
Not sure what that is.
I'l google

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#391875 14-Oct-2010 16:52

box means computer, just a computer running some form of software that acts as a firewall and whatever else you want to do to the traffic.

Can range from a cheap router that can have one of the linux softwares installed like openwrt or tomato, thru to a whole computer with several network cards installed in it.

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#391879 14-Oct-2010 17:09

ryon:
jonb: Remember to change the password to the router, won't take him long to do a quick search to find the default password and undo all your good work. What would happen if he reset the router when finds out he's blocked?

Yea i have changed the password.
Hmmmm, when you reset it it does a factory reset, which would mean all the settings go too, right? So it shouldn't say he has been blocked.
If I still give him net and don't completely block him off I don't think he will get too suspicious.

If he reset it then he would need to know the user name and password to connect to your isp I think cause it wipes that too?

Why don't you just tell him that he either acts like an adult and is considerate of the other people in the flat or no internet for him. Easy enough to block his MAC altogether.

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#392109 15-Oct-2010 09:49

Just block the MAC address then. You've all warned him enough times in the past, and with only a couple of menths left before you all leave won't be long enough for him to do anything about it. Just giving his MAC address the lowest priority might make it more bearable when he's already reduced you to dial up speeds but it won't have any effect on his torrenting and using up all the band width in the first place.
Say he can have his bandwidth back after writing a five thousand word essay about the tragedy of the commons, and it's implication for a shared broadband connection:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

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#392195 15-Oct-2010 13:01

If the guy has no idea that the cap has been reached or not, then it might work to throttle the hell out of him, and if he complains say that you did all your updates on the day it rolled over so used it all up, tough crap etc and hes been doing that all year so has no right to complain etc ;)

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#392202 15-Oct-2010 13:10

richms: If the guy has no idea that the cap has been reached or not, then it might work to throttle the hell out of him, and if he complains say that you did all your updates on the day it rolled over so used it all up, tough crap etc and hes been doing that all year so has no right to complain etc ;)

I like your thinking richms

A slightly more subtle approach would be on the day the cap is removed to let him have full access and throttle him during the day or that night.

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#392224 15-Oct-2010 13:37

The throttling is a great passive-aggressive solution. My original suggestion of the traffic shaping box (with pfSense) would fall into that category.

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#392231 15-Oct-2010 13:45

magu: The throttling is a great passive-aggressive solution. My original suggestion of the traffic shaping box (with pfSense) would fall into that category.

Perhaps even combine that with intermittent ADSL failures.

Combine that with comments like "yeah, it's out for me too" and complain about how expensive mobile broadband is.

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#392567 16-Oct-2010 13:08

Linksys router with DD-WRT loaded onto it.
You can limit the speed of each lan port.

So give everyone the wireless passcode, except him. And limit his bandwidth on all the lan ports to 128k.
Even if he downloaded 24/7, he would never be able to pass 30gb.

Also you can put time limits on, so you can work out when he is at work or school and disable the net to his pc and maybe increase the speed to 256k when he is home to compensate and make youtube more watchable.

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#394166 20-Oct-2010 22:39

Be nice to him. He's a flat mate too. But as somebody said, a bit of discipline is needed. Self-discipline is the way to go and that requires feedback.

Here's the easy answer - buy a Zenbu router here http://www.Zenbu.net.nz Plug it in. Tell all your flatmates to register with Zenbu [free to register]. You login using the user name and password you will get with your router. Add their user names as "friends" of your router and allocate them each however many megabytes or gigabytes you want them to have access to each month. Set the date for them to automatically get the next issue of data the following month and so on.

Or, you can print access vouchers for a certain number of megabytes for each access voucher and give those to the people you want to give them to. They can use that allocation of data and then they'll have to come back to you for more. There is no time limit on Zenbu data. An access code is good until the data is all used [provided it is logged in at least once a year]. Printing your own access vouchers is free. The ones you print work only at your Zenbu router.

Or, they can buy more on-line direct from Zenbu at 10c a megabyte and use as much as they like. For each megabyte somebody uses at your zone that they bought on-line, you get 5c and Zenbu keeps 5c. They can use credit they buy on-line at any Zenbu zone. Since data costs only $2 a gigabyte these days [for extra], which is a fifth of a cent a megabyte, the more they use the better for you [you could upgrade to fibre or another internet connection if people buy enough data from you].

If you want your friend to get a lot more data, you could sell him gigabytes access codes at discounted prices so he's not paying excessive prices but still covering all your cost. As long as he's not running ti slowly for everyone, that would do the job.

You can buy a Nanostation2 outdoor access point from www.gowifi.co.nz configured for Zenbu, [about $170 plus GST] plug it into port 1 which is monitored by Zenbu, run power over ethernet for up to 100 metres up onto a roof and point it in a direction where neighbours might use it so you could sell internet access in the neighbourhood. Or, get really serious and connect another Nanostation wirelessly to the first one and cover many hectares. NorthlandConnect.co.nz has covered Paihia with it and others are covering extended areas [such as Goose Bay south of the Kaikoura Coast by beaming across the ocean from the Kaikoura peninsula to an antenna relay there]. Rangataua is covered with 3 x Nanostation2.

To stop your friend from plugging directly into the router [ports 2, 3 and 4 are unmonitored], you would need to gum them up with chewing gum or something or put the router in a locked box.

$249 is all you pay. There are no other charges; printing access codes is free. There is no term contract [other than normal consumer protection laws]. There's a 3 year warranty. It's plug and play.

I checked with Mauricio and he said it's okay to self-promote in this instance [I'm part of the Zenbu system] . So would other moderators please not delete this. Thanks.
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#394184 20-Oct-2010 23:24

MauriceWinn: Be nice to him. He's a flat mate too. But as somebody said, a bit of discipline is needed. Self-discipline is the way to go and that requires feedback. >>

People seem to forget the OP said the perp is a "little boy" in another studio who has no respect for other users. Not a reasonable person with respect for others

ryon

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#397629 30-Oct-2010 02:16

I have had a look at a few of the suggestions everyone has made and I think I like the look of Tomato.

I have a Linksys Cisco WAG120N.
Could anyone tell me if that is compatible with Tomato?

I have made a back up file for the current settings on the router. But is there any specific information I would have to copy and paste over to Tomato to make it work. Like are there any specific settings on the router that have been put there so that it is able to connect to the internet (ISP: Snap Internet)? Or would it just work.

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#397638 30-Oct-2010 07:11

ryon: I have had a look at a few of the suggestions everyone has made and I think I like the look of Tomato.

I have a Linksys Cisco WAG120N.
Could anyone tell me if that is compatible with Tomato?

I have made a back up file for the current settings on the router. But is there any specific information I would have to copy and paste over to Tomato to make it work. Like are there any specific settings on the router that have been put there so that it is able to connect to the internet (ISP: Snap Internet)? Or would it just work.

According to its page on Wikibooks, Tomato doesn't run on your router. Neither does DD-WRT.

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