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jaredmc

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#714347 8-Nov-2012 19:24

Thanks.

And from what I've read it seems like 5400rpm HDDs are the way to go. Western Digital Red Hard Drives look like they are made especially for NAS boxes. Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

TechSol

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#714499 9-Nov-2012 08:58

jaredmc: Thanks.

And from what I've read it seems like 5400rpm HDDs are the way to go. Western Digital Red Hard Drives look like they are made especially for NAS boxes. Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

I am currently using WD reds.... I believe it's to do with how they error correct which is useful for a NAS.

Also having cooler running 5400RPM drives is a bonus.... and for the speeds of an average network, fast HDDs would be a waste

gjm

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#714524 9-Nov-2012 09:30

yup I have a couple of WD Red 2 terabyte drives at home and use 4 3TB for my NAS at work and they all seem fine. I think they are supposed to have a longer mean time to failure rating than normal drives and (if I remember correctly) have a longer warranty period.

Having said that another guy at work bought some and had 1 fail in 3 days. I suspect it is just like most things where theres always going to be a faulty few.

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DrStrangelove

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#714746 9-Nov-2012 15:28

Just swapped out my WD Black 2TB disk in my TS-112 NAS for a WD Red 3TB HDD.

First and most important thing I noticed was the HDD temperature went from 48C (Black 2TB) down to 37C (Red 3TB) during normal running. That's a relief.

Still get ~104MB read and ~40MB write which is limited by the low-end NAS and so no difference in I/O due to disk swap.

Bought from Ascént with 3 year warranty.

All gud over the last month.

Ragnor

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#715349 11-Nov-2012 04:15

jaredmc: Thanks.

And from what I've read it seems like 5400rpm HDDs are the way to go. Western Digital Red Hard Drives look like they are made especially for NAS boxes. Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

You can almost buy five WD Green 2TB's for the price of 4 WD Red 2TB's.

Greens are fine in most NAS's as they are pretty much all using nix or bsd based software raid.

Always check the vendors compatibility list though. Synology and QNAP seem to keep their lists relatively up to date and there are also lots of posts on their forums and wiki.

DrStrangelove

368 posts

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#715438 11-Nov-2012 12:58

QNAP say the following of WDC Caviar Green HDD in a QNAP NAS:

As listed 7-11-2012

http://www.qnap.com/useng/index.php?sn=4085&lang=en-us

Note5 (WD Green & Seagate Green)
These hard disk drives have passed QNAP lab's initial verification of compatibility. However, because many users have reported unstable experience with these hard disk drives, we do not recommend using these hard disk drives with QNAP products. WD10EADS-00P8B0 and WD15EADS-00P8B0 are not suggested because of slow performance and stability issues.

So they have passed QNAP compatibility tests and I have read on Geekzone that people are successfully using WD Green HDD in a NAS RAID environment without problems.

You will also note the WD Green drives noted by QNAP are no longer sold in the latest WDC line of Green drives, which may imply a more robust WD Green line up.

If you look at the Synology HDD compatibility list it notes the latest WD Green HDD without any caveats

http://www.synology.com/support/hd.php?lang=enu

As the WD Red HDD are relatively new I'm guessing they command a premium price at the moment, but I do see PBTech has dropped the price on the WD Red HDD.

For myself, I just feel a bit more comfortable using a WD Red HDD over a WD Geen HDD in a QNAP NAS based on the information I have read. But as Ragnor notes, that comfort level does come at a price.

dtmcgregor

32 posts

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#715653 12-Nov-2012 08:51

Early WD Green drives had issues when raided - there were high failure rates, error correction issues and they took too long to spin up. This was one of the main reasons I paid a bit more when populating my NAS and put Seagate drives in instead.

The current crop of WD Greens should be fine, though.

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Azzura

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#715665 12-Nov-2012 09:28

I decided to stay away from WD Greens for storage of my data due to some overly aggressive head parking in the WD Green Drive line.

I did some researching before I was about to buy 6 WD Greens and what I read didn't exactly ease my mind.

Just one of many not very positive things I read in regards to this LLC thing ------ the WD30EZRX back in 2011 indicated that the drive has a load/unload cycle count lifetime of 300,000 cycles. To then read about a post on WD forums about a "Caviar Green 3TB 284,379 Load Cycle Count in only 131 days!"

Since I was going to be buying 6 3TB drives...I didn't want to risk it (or the possible headache and grief). Ended up going with the WD Reds.

jaredmc

19 posts

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#716633 13-Nov-2012 19:21

Bought myself a 212 and 2 WD Red 2TB drives and am very happy with it.

Transferring over Wireless N speed has increased from 4-5MB/s previously to 10-12MB/s with the NAS.

DLNA updates almost immediately - within a few seconds.

It would be handy if I could avoid transferring from the laptop to the NAS, and just download directly to the NAS. But I haven't managed to work out the Download Station yet. I want to download via HTTPS from my seedbox. Is this possible using the Download Station? I add a file and in the details it says "Status: Error". But I get the impression that the add feature is to add a torrent file.

Does anyone else download this way? It may be that there is a 3rd party package that can do this. Something similar to Internet Download Manager would be great.

Does anyone know of any other good 3rd party packages?

jaredmc

19 posts

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#716680 13-Nov-2012 20:44

For some reason I can't edit my previous post any more. So I have figured out how to download via HTTPS. Unfortunately it only uses 1 connection so my speed ranges from 100KB/s to 400KB/s. Still good as I can set up non-urgent downloads to get processed over night.

Would definitely prefer if there was a different package that can do multiple connections, and also maintain the folder structure.

mjb

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#716691 13-Nov-2012 21:04

@DrStrangeLove - what file access protocols do QNAP devices support? the usual?

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DrStrangelove

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#716837 14-Nov-2012 09:10

mjb: @DrStrangeLove - what file access protocols do QNAP devices support? the usual?

It's tempting to say 'the usual', but I'd only be saying that cause I'm not sure about the nature and depth of the question.

It supports numerous file access 'methods' and 'protocols' too many to list here as I'm sure I'd miss a few.

You can have a look at any QNAP storage device on their web site page(s) and check the features section of any given device.

QNAP TS-569 Pro

They list a lot of different access methods and protocols there.

Some of the more common would SMB/CIFS, FTP, NFS, and AFP and mount an ISO file.

Some of the access methods are HTTP/HTTPS, PPTP, OpenVPN and WebDAV.

Being a NAS it's very nature dictates a very robust array of access methods and support file protocols.

QNAP and Synology closely mirror the NAS constructs of each other, so the answer would be much the same for the two companies.

mjb

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#717367 14-Nov-2012 21:50

DrStrangelove: Some of the more common would SMB/CIFS, FTP, NFS, and AFP and mount an ISO file.

Some of the access methods are HTTP/HTTPS, PPTP, OpenVPN and WebDAV.

Those are what I'd consider 'the usual'... cool, thanks ;)

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