Rewiring house for Structured Cabling...

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chevrolux

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#765712 19-Feb-2013 12:31

Get the Sigtech/Signet phone hub patch panel, lets you terminate your incoming analogue lines on the punch down, has space for DSL master filter, you can then you can patch any outlet in the house to be phone as needed by simply patching from the port on the main patch panel to you phone hub instead of to your network switch.

While this gem works really well in the flush cabinets there isnt much point using it when there is a rack available. Better off using the spares on the patch panel for voice distribution.

I dont think the OP was contemplating stealing the blue for outlets and was going to run cable anyway so lets not confuse him lol.

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#765713 19-Feb-2013 12:33

Hi, yes agreed, the ST2206 is great for either inwall cabinet mounting or directly screwing to a wall, but if you are using 19"l or 10" patch panels in a cabinet then it makes more sense to just create a phone patch on the panel.

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#765874 19-Feb-2013 17:09

cyril7: Hi, yes agreed, the ST2206 is great for either inwall cabinet mounting or directly screwing to a wall, but if you are using 19"l or 10" patch panels in a cabinet then it makes more sense to just create a phone patch on the panel.

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So does that mean I should just get another patch panel just for phones?

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#765880 19-Feb-2013 17:29

sonyxperiageek:
cyril7: Hi, yes agreed, the ST2206 is great for either inwall cabinet mounting or directly screwing to a wall, but if you are using 19"l or 10" patch panels in a cabinet then it makes more sense to just create a phone patch on the panel.

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So does that mean I should just get another patch panel just for phones?

It depends - if you have spare ports on your existing patch panel, you could just wire this up as a phone patch panel (commoning up the correct terminals), if you've haven't then it might be easiest to go that way. No reason why you can't have phone / data on the same panel.

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#765901 19-Feb-2013 19:05

Yeah, normally there are spare ports on the patch panel so use those. That all said, if you only have 8 or less outlets to go in the house, do you really need a cabinet, could you not use an existing closet, if that was so you could just use a ST2208 which will terminate upto 8 Cat5e horizontals and provide phone patching all in one simple module that can be simply screwed to the side or back wall of a closet where you can place your modem beside.

By the way both the ST2206 and ST2208 are designs I did some years back.

http://www.sigtech.co.nz/webapps/p/72000/105425/397749

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#765930 19-Feb-2013 20:03

And I was also planning to replace the BT jack in the kitchen to one of the connected RJ45s? Is that okay?
So what do I do with the existing BT jackpoints?

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#766054 19-Feb-2013 22:38

existing bt jacks - remove and destroy. every one of those evil things killed the better

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#766315 20-Feb-2013 11:24

richms: existing bt jacks - remove and destroy. every one of those evil things killed the better

Put them on Trade Me for $1 reserve, I'm sure someone will buy them.

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#767547 22-Feb-2013 11:55

sonyxperiageek: And I was also planning to replace the BT jack in the kitchen to one of the connected RJ45s? Is that okay?
So what do I do with the existing BT jackpoints?

If you are going to replace 1 BT outlet then consider whether its worth replacing all of them, but would start filling up your patch panel fast.

You could also just move the BT network to a port on the patch panel instead of going directly to the street, and other ports from the master filter for the telecom street connection and ADSL, then when you switch to naked DSL just keep modem on the ADSL port at the cabinet and patch the BT network to your VoIP outputs. If you find it confusing then best to stick to just wiring the data outlets, keep it simple.

Time to find a new industry!

johnhb67

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#776512 7-Mar-2013 22:05

why would you ever need 4 ports? You can get splitters to double the number of ports from a cable.
I used cat 6 and would not use it again, its so stiff to work with compates with 5E. I did my new house for under $300 and used an old micowave for a cabinet for the ADSL and patch panel.

I got everything from cables direct in chch.

To be honest most of the network has never been used, everything is wireless. The only hard wired items are my apple TV and the PC that uploads to it.

chevrolux

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#776525 7-Mar-2013 22:13

johnhb67: why would you ever need 4 ports? You can get splitters to double the number of ports from a cable.

I can think in the location of the TV.... there is the smart TV, Xbox, Sky (phone) and that leaves one spare to send HDMI back to the patch panel. Easily use 4 outlets. Splitters are a seriously last resort and it is just plain dumb to not over cable while you are doing it. The cost is not a good reason to skimp on cable. I agree with your comments towards Cat 6 but it really comes in to play when you look at distributing HDMI. You need that extra bandwidth that Cat 6 can offer - not in ethernet terms but just plain bandwidth terms.

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#776527 7-Mar-2013 22:14

If you get the cheaper HDMI extenders that need 2 cat-6's then you would regret only putting 2 into a certain location.

Pair splitting limits you to 100 meg lan speed. enough for todays needs for media streaming, but who knows what crazy new formats will come out with 4K and high FPS and decentish 3D.

Sure, you can stick a switch behind the TV to plug multiple devices in, but that just starts to get messy and is one more device sucking down a few watts all the time you wouldnt need otherwise.

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