Ethernet over phone wires?

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Laurence

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#409668 25-Nov-2010 22:23

if your going to run quite a few then get a power point in a cupboard and run all the cables into there. (you will have to run a cable from your router to the cupboard as well. Then you can put a switch in there and hide it all. (you can also move your router there as well if you can move the cable).

Of cause this is all depending on your being able to do the cabling yourself. If you don't want to do that then just get a sparky in to do the one cable run and keep it cheap. (no point in over engeenring your problem).

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#409678 25-Nov-2010 22:54

Thanks for the thoughts mate, i'll sleep on it and decide tomorrow. There are fair points either way, with a patch cupboard or just a simple run. I'll make sure if I go the simple way it's easy enough to change to a more through solution later.

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#409692 25-Nov-2010 23:46

Laurence: What i would do is go to your local pbtech (or wellington version of that), spend $30 on a good cable (if you don't have one already). Cut the end off one end and then run it so that it comes out the existing holes in the wall. Then find a local sparky to put a couple of face plates on the cable for you (should be fairly cheap). If you cut the end off then you should be able to use the existing phone cables to put up the new one.

No, because the cable you buy and chop the plug off should be stranded, and you cant punch stranded down into a wall plate, and you should not be installing stranded cable into the premisis, its only supposed to be used on the flexible cables from the wall to the device.

Some places are able to get short 50m rolls of solid cat5e cable, that is what you want to be running.

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#409696 25-Nov-2010 23:54

My bad, i should have said that.
Solid cable is better for an inwall run but you can punch down stranded no problem if it is good quality cable.

Yes for a ideal install you would do Cat6 Solid and run a proper patch panel, but that is probably overkill for what he needs if it is only one cable run.

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#409770 26-Nov-2010 09:26

If you don't want to do the whole patch panel thing yet, at least run your two cables now, but feed them past a cupboard, leaving extra length there. That way, later on you can chop them at the cupboard, pull up, install patch panel, and you have four runs already done.

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#410021 26-Nov-2010 19:21

Stranded, non-stranded, I have no idea. Cyril's going to do it and he knows about that kind of thing. I'll tell him what I want now, what I want in the future, and i'm sure he'll work it out for me :)

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#410094 27-Nov-2010 00:02

Laurence: My bad, i should have said that.
Solid cable is better for an inwall run but you can punch down stranded no problem if it is good quality cable.

Yes for a ideal install you would do Cat6 Solid and run a proper patch panel, but that is probably overkill for what he needs if it is only one cable run.

Patch cables have stranded copper inside and use plugs on them instead of punchdown connectors if you want a permanent install -- its related to the way different types of connector work, not the quality of cable. You can get plugs designed for solid cable though, but you dont want solid cable flexing and stuff.

If the phone wiring has Cat5 or Home LAN written on the jacket then its just a matter of connecting a new jackpoint if 100Mbps is good enough, but there might be another jackpoint in between somewhere. There is pretty cheap solid Cat5e around, so why not run a new cable if you have easy access under the house...

I'm sure Cyril will do a great job :)

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#410099 27-Nov-2010 00:15

I'd like to have it Gigabit ready... just in case. I can already see that i'll push 30Mbps through it regularly, that'd not even full HD.

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#410215 27-Nov-2010 14:37

Cyril (not his real name btw) came in today and did everything in a couple of hours. I now have two new ports in my office, they connect to a new port in the hallway and one in the lounge. The lounge has a four port wap/switch plugged into it, so all my home theatre devices are wired and I now have two WAPs in the house.

Thanks again Cyril, nice job, good value, and done on a Saturday too :)

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