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TimmyJackson

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#225510 22-Nov-2017 12:28
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Hi Everyone,

 

 

 

We recently got UFB installed and its going great over our 2.4/5Ghz WiFi Network!

 

However over our wired network we seam to be losing some serious speed.. I would really appreciate a networking guru/or anyone that could give me some pointers.

 

 

 

Background Information.

 

ISP: Spark 100mbps Down 20mbps up.

 

On the Enable Fibre Network.

 

 

 

Modem: HG659 Standard Firmware

 

Running a WiFi Network 2.4/5Ghz

 

DHCP Server Running

 

Around 20 Clients

 

 

 

Cabling:  UTP Cat 5, 24 AWG, Lengths upto 20M 

 

Cable is nearly 20 years old, its in the walls and use to run phone lines though out the house, until we wired up the Ethernet.

 

Demarc point is in the garage with an old school patch panel for connections.

 

I have then made up my own patch cables that one end is "punched" into the patch panel and the other has an RJ45 plugged into the HG659 (Router)
I can add a photo if this isn't clear, just ask.

 

 

 

Local Performance:

 

I use Linux and my Gnome Local Network Manager says I'm getting 100Mbps to the router.

 

I have also tested with iperf with my raspberry pi as the server with a patch cabled straight into the back of the router and can confirm the TCP packets were going at 100mbps.

 

SpeedTest.net Results:

 

Average Download on Cat 5 Ethernet: 50~60 Mbps

 

Average Upload on Cat 5 Ethernet 20 mbps

 

Cat6 Cable Test:

 

For testings sake I then ran a long Cat 6 from the same computer up the stairs to the router, it synced up at 1Gbps

 

SpeedTest.net on that cable gave me the full 110 Mbps! 

 

We can also get this on WiFi if we are close to the router. 

 

 

 

 

 

So with all that in mind I think its safe to say the Cat 5 in the walls is causing the problem..

 

But why, Could I have wired it up wrong? Or do you think the lengths are too long ~20M?

 

Possibly it could be my wiring from the patch panel to the RJ45s in the back of the router. but this all speculation.

 

 

 

Would greatly appreciate any advice on how to trouble shoot this further to narrow down the problem.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

ps. This is my first post, So please let me know if this format is unclear or if you would like further information. Cheers


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TimmyJackson

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  #1907114 24-Nov-2017 13:59
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webwat:

 

That is not actually a patch panel, its actually what we normally call 10 pair Krone modules and designed for phone lines only (ie Cat.3) but you can get 8 pair Cat.5e or Cat.6 data ones if you really want to use them that badly instead of an actual patch panel. They need the wires to be punched in directly without being stripped, and supposed to be solid cable not stranded patch cables (although stranded may work well enough). Your tool is the correct one for Krone blocks, but I would recommend you maintain the wire twist up to the termination and change to Cat.5e hardware.

 

 

 

I may still have an old Cat.5 surface-mount patch panel somewhere (so its older than Cat.5e), if you are around Auckland I could drop it off or help you put it in. Of course patch panels require RJ45 patch cables...

 

 

 

 

Hi WebWat,

 

Cheers for the info and Thank you for the offer however I'm down in Christchurch currently.

 

 

 

So I have made some progress fixing up our LAN

 

 

 

Turns out I had two different standards wired up... Type A at the patch panel and Type B on the Jacks, =/

 

After getting the Ethernet tester I quickly Diagnosed the issue, Also originally only two of the pairs were hooked up and one pair was left for the phone line.

 

I then wired all 4 pairs to the Type B configuration at both ends and and BOOM 1GBS is now running over CAT5! 

 

 

 

Thank you guys for all the help getting this sorted!

 

 

 

Question for Bonus Points dose anyone know if you can get 1GBPS running over 2/3 Pairs On CAT5?
As that means I could leave the old school phone lines working as well.

 

 

 

SpeedTest

 

 

 

Cheers,
Timmy


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