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#96993 8-Feb-2012 21:07

Apple Might Lose A $1.6 Billion Lawsuit For Using The Word 'iPad'
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-ipad-lawsuit-2012-2#ixzz1lm9HW2sf

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#578949 8-Feb-2012 21:30

i doubt it, their own lawyers says it is $33 million

"According to the Global Times, Proview Shenzhen's lawyer Xie Xianghui said a court in the Xicheng district of Beijing was ready to "slap Apple with a 240 million yuan ($38 million) fine," but the ruling has been delayed due to Apple's appeal."

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#578970 8-Feb-2012 22:00

It was predicted ages ago the Apple would lose the trail as that is how the Chinese courts work. (Think I saw the article in ComputerWorld, or another US site before Christmas)

If it was tried anywhere else but China then the result would have been quite different.

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#580106 11-Feb-2012 10:30

Its the same with Chinese knock offs, They say its okay for a chinese company to infringe on others products, but the moment someone "infringes" on theirs, they scream foul and fine you a bajillion yuan. (which is exactly how I feel when I read this... Yawn)

If Apple lose, its not even really a needle prick to their 'empire'. So i'm sure Apple aren't worried other than its a brand tarnishing thing.

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#586424 24-Feb-2012 19:40

http://applenews.gr/apple-could-be-slapped-with-38-million-fine-for-using-ipad-name-in-china-2#respond

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#586462 24-Feb-2012 21:51

Apple could find itself mired in a $2 billion lawsuit from Proview Technology in an ongoing legal battle over who owns the iPad name.

The new lawsuit would be filed in the United States and follow similar suits already launched by Proview against Apple in China.

"Right now we are selecting from three American law firms to sue Apple in the United States for $2 billion in compensation," Hejun Vanguard Group chairman Li Su said at a press conference today, according to TechCrunch and other sources. Hejun Vanguard is a consulting firm working with creditors to restructure Proview, which has been forced to file for bankruptcy.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57380061-37/apple-threatened-with-$2b-lawsuit-in-ipad-dispute/#ixzz1nHsRVHqt

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#586463 24-Feb-2012 21:55

All I can say is I would be very surprised if Apple did, in fact, get fined $2 Billion.

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#586483 24-Feb-2012 22:28

Wow - you guys are slow on the news uptake - or reading the totally wrong websites! The articles you reference are at least a week old, if not a lot older.

Todays news is the the Chinese courts have suspended the iPad ban case - hence Apple has permission to sell the iPad in China again. Read real news sites and get the real story about it.

My understanding on what has happened is, basically that the subsidery of Proview in Taiwan (who actually filed for the original rights to the name iPad in numerous countries) sold the rights to Apple some time ago (for not very much). Proview Head office is pissed over this and trying to gain something out of it by taking the action they are taking. IMO, in all likely hood, Apple is going to win.

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#586485 24-Feb-2012 22:30

Here you go guys, a current article on an reputable news site:

Apple iPad sale ban case suspended for now in Shanghai

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#586495 24-Feb-2012 22:50

I'm not sure how their law works but I do know that if you purchase something from someone in NZ for far less than what you know it is worth, the seller who is being duped can have the sale annulled. (one of the few things I took remember from my .101 law paper at uni)

Obviously Apple would just bleed them dry through ongoing litigation until that company is no more.

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#586497 24-Feb-2012 22:51

insane: I'm not sure how their law works but I do know that if you purchase something from someone in NZ for far less than what you know it is worth, the seller who is being duped can have the sale annulled. (one of the few things I took remember from my .101 law paper at uni)

Obviously Apple would just bleed them dry through ongoing litigation until that company is no more.

I remember from the case the words extortion being used.

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#586498 24-Feb-2012 22:52

I do try to stay updated -

UPDATE 2-Apple's China legal battle over iPad spreads to US http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/24/apple-proview-idUSL2E8DO0VU20120224

Can't see them winning in the US though.

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#586499 24-Feb-2012 22:53

Aaroona: Its the same with Chinese knock offs, They say its okay for a chinese company to infringe on others products, but the moment someone "infringes" on theirs, they scream foul and fine you a bajillion yuan. (which is exactly how I feel when I read this... Yawn)

If Apple lose, its not even really a needle prick to their 'empire'. So i'm sure Apple aren't worried other than its a brand tarnishing thing.

no no no no ... chinese companies never infringe. they are all investigated, but never found to infringe. never. ever. unless of course, one of 2 things occur: the company fail to bribe the investigator; a rival pays a bigger bribe to the investigator.

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#586643 25-Feb-2012 13:37

joker97:
Aaroona: Its the same with Chinese knock offs, They say its okay for a chinese company to infringe on others products, but the moment someone "infringes" on theirs, they scream foul and fine you a bajillion yuan. (which is exactly how I feel when I read this... Yawn)

If Apple lose, its not even really a needle prick to their 'empire'. So i'm sure Apple aren't worried other than its a brand tarnishing thing.

no no no no ... chinese companies never infringe. they are all investigated, but never found to infringe. never. ever. unless of course, one of 2 things occur: the company fail to bribe the investigator; a rival pays a bigger bribe to the investigator.

Although the BBC article made some good points - Proview has no product in the market with that name, but Apple already brings many tens of thousands jobs to China, and many, many Millions of dollars into the Chinese economy... So not siding with Apple could be a bit damaging to China.

Apple products could have "Made in India" on them soon?...

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#586645 25-Feb-2012 13:43

Azzura: I do try to stay updated -

UPDATE 2-Apple's China legal battle over iPad spreads to US http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/24/apple-proview-idUSL2E8DO0VU20120224

Can't see them winning in the US though.

Proview? No way they'd win in the US (and not likely in China either given the financial considerations to the Chinese economy). Not even sure what a US court would have jurisdiction over in such a case.

It really is starting to sound like desperation on the part of Proview. Filing in the US over supposed deception of a Chinese company, in China. Almost laughable that they have filed in the US. Proview (according to the article above) now openly admit they sold the rights to Apple, via a separate entity. I've heard of Apple acquiring trademarks in that way previously. And certainly not illegal.