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SkinBintin

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#311489 20-Jan-2024 06:06
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Hey all, this one is a bit of a doozy, and I'm not sure how well I can explain it without this turning into a gigantic novel and I don't really want it to seem like yet another hate rant about a company. 

So, been with 2Degrees ever since they bought out Snap (who I was also with a long time). And for the most part, I've always been pretty happy with them. At least I was, until 2023. 

My personal problems seemed to begin around when they moved over to their new web portal. First issue was my address was wrong on the new one. Instead of being Christchurch, as it was on the old web portal still, I now apparently lived in Martinborough somewhere. Strange. I left it for a while, because I can be a pretty anxious person a lot of the time (literally have to take medications for it... yuck). Eventually I made contact about that, but nothing seemed to happen. 

Around a similar time, our connection started becoming somewhat unstable. We were still on VDSL at the time (I know, I'm waaaay behind the times - Again those anxiety issues meant I was pretty reluctant to have people come over to install fibre). Basically, we'd have periods where the connection would drop for 30 seconds or so, reconnect, then drop again a few mins later. And this behaviour could last for maybe an hour or so, then everything would go back to normal for a few days, maybe a few weeks... not unusable, but pretty annoying if you're gaming or watching something on a streaming service etc. Again, mostly put up with it for the most part. At some point though, I make contact about it all, and don't really get any response of worth. 

Fast forward into late December and I again try to get a resolution for the address being shown incorrect on their new web portal. Connection is still pretty junk really. 

It is now late December, 28th to be exact. Get an email from 2degrees about letting them know we're moving. Huh? Guess that's just part of the process of getting our address fixed on the new 2degrees web portal. Strange, but I don't know how it all works. Connection stability is now at its absolute worst. It has become a joke now. Make contact again using the web portal, I get back some things to try on the modem, as I had mentioned maybe the modem is dying? And they say they'll get the address issue sorted. Okay, lets try these things. No resolution, problem persists. Keep trying different things, buying cables and things to replace all that kind of thing. Get someone around to check wiring under the house too, and apparently that's all fine as well.

There's some back and forth via email here, trying solutions etc. Eventually it is January (I believe the 5th) and the connection just completely shuts off around lunch time. 2 hours later, still nothing. I make contact again because well now I don't even have internet at all (I'm a prepay mobile user too, so no unlimited mobile data to fall back on). I get a call back where the guy basically explains the connection has been disconnected by chorus, as the copper network has depreciated and isn't maintained anymore so they won't be able to get me back on my VDSL copper connection, and our only option is to move to fibre. And they can give us 50GB data to get us over the gap. (we average about 1TB a month usually, so 50GB isn't much). We have no date for install or connection, just... wait they'll call. Ehh, okay  at least it is something I guess.

That afternoon I send another email, because I'm really confused about how we got our whole connection cut off without any warning at all and 2degrees just seem to be ehh, whatever. 10 days later, the 15th of Jan, Enable come around for the site visit to decide on an install plan. That's happening on the 29th for the trench and whatnot. And the 5th of feb for the hardware inside and the connection to be turned on. So basically a month now with no internet at all aside from hotspotting off my phone (I had to buy a 2degrees prepay sim for that). 3 times so far I've had the 50GB loaded on, and every single time it was an absolute nightmare. A call center seemingly staffed with people with pretty thick accents, and more people screaming in the background with equally thick accents making it extremely difficult to understand anything. Combined with whoever I get on any call seems to have absolutely no idea whatsoever what is going on it's a recipe for extreme frustration. It's like there's no notes or something... I don't know what's up with it, but it's hard work. 

Early the next week after our internet shut off, we got put through to a manager or someone that was pretty awesome actually with trying to help get some things rectified and literally changed our address on the new web portal in about 5 seconds. Something I've been trying to get sorted for months and no one ever seemed to have a clue how, or what I was even talking about. 

When the guy from Enable came around and I was explaining what happened, he was pretty shocked. Suggested maybe I contact again because they shouldn't be just leaving us without a phone line without any warning. After he left, I went and talked to a few neighbours, and several are also still on copper connection and still have copper landlines etc... so the network in our street hasn't even been disconnected as 2degrees claimed. Just us... Now I'm wondering if they messed up and misunderstood my request and submitted an actual change of address, and step one was disconnecting the old address, which on my account is where I've lived the last 15 or so years? 

I'm now writing this after a few days ago having to go through the frustration of needed to ask for more hotspot data and having the rep on the phone bitching about an unpaid bill (that's been credited already, if I log on to the new portal it says exactly that at the top of the page) - Because that manager that was pretty good applied that credit when I was talking to him. And that if I didn't pay it immediately, they'd disconnect me. Disconnect what exactly? I have no connection... you lot already had it disconnected without warning. Here I am with no connection for weeks, with weeks still to wait before we have something again, and now these clowns are demanding money for the non-existent connection for they'll disconnect me.... nothing? 

I'm so frustrated with 2degrees. Used to like this company, then at some point last year they seem to have gone down hill, now I just want to jump ship to someone else entirely, but I don't know what to do. I'm worried 1: it'll cause my install date to be reset, and I'll have to wait even longer without any internet connection than we already will be. And 2: I'm completely reliant on the 50GB data blocks they are giving us right now to hotspot off (can't do a whole lot really with it, because they make us feel like we're in trouble when we call for more so I'm trying to make the 50GB blocks last as long as possible)

Does anyone here have any advice for what I should maybe do next? Sorry for the massive rambling wall of text. It's been weeks now, and I'm still irritated about it all. :(


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chrisvp
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  #3185569 23-Jan-2024 16:46
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Just to follow up, I've been helping understand what happen to SkinBintin service.  As identified by others, it was not related to any Chorus copper withdrawal programme.  It appears an agent tried to update the customer address by raising a 'move house' order and then cancelling it.  However, it was done poorly and ended up disconnecting the existing copper service :(  Training teams will be notified to help shape this behaviour as updating a customer's postal address is rather simple and required nothing like what has been done. I also suspect the individual who said they were part of the copper withdrawal programme assumed this because a 'move house' order and a 'copper withdrawal' order appear very similar in our systems

 

Chorus are helping to get the copper reinstated while fibre is installed.

 

Regards,
Chris




SkinBintin

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  #3186565 25-Jan-2024 20:53
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Update time. 

ChrisVP was really helpful, and helped understand most of what was going on. Eventually got our copper switched back on to tide us over until our fibre install on the 5th of Feb. 

However, insane instability issues have unfortunately resumed just like they had in the lead up to the misunderstanding that had our connection terminated early this month. 

Some attempts seemed to have been made to try and get those issues rectified (wildly varying speeds, often times too slow to do much at all, or just being extremely unstable where the connection disconnects over and over again). 

I got a call from someone at Chorus today who said she wanted me to verify details of the fault inspection, and they had been given the wrong address details (the Martinborough address that is part of what began this entire fiasco in the first place). I corrected her on our address as being in Christchurch (where we've lived over 15 years, and where our 2degrees account has been connected to the entire time we've been with them, and Snap before them). She said there would be delays in getting anything done now, as there is no technicians available now the address is so different. 

Later on this evening, I got a text message and an email from 2degrees stating the fault had now been fixed. It was difficult to load the email however, because the fault was indeed persisting and our very flakey unstable connection was again in full force (and it has continued most of the evening until now, since I got home around 5pm). 

At the moment, I just can't wait for the 5th of feb to arrive to finally not have to be reliant on the copper connection anymore that seems like it's just never going to work right again. 

Plan to either reach out to Chris tomorrow morning, or just call 2degrees, as the text said to do if there is still issues at play, which I'm not looking forward to after so many challenging phone calls with their somewhat woeful call center so far this month. 

Will update again once everything is finally sorted. Hopeful that everything will be well eventually. How ChrisVP has handled things definitely put some faith back in me that people over at 2Degrees do actually care about resolving peoples issues after all. :)


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