AVer3D Satellite Tuner and Freeview

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SepticSceptic

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#165498 11-Feb-2015 17:39

Have one of these hooked up to a Brix, via USB, and also running Windows Media Centre on the Brix.

I cannot seem to get any settings to work correctly to pickup a satellite feed, either thru the Aver TV Application, nor thru Windows Media Centre. The best I managed was an Optus D3 test page.

I set up Windows Media Centre for Opus D1 NZ as the satellite, a Custom Single LNB and the frequency to be 11,300, but shows zero signal strength. A Station Scan bought up the Optus D3 test page, but that's about it ....

Here is the screencap of the AverTV application for setting up the satellite - what settings go where ?

I have a new LNB - the sky tech replaced it a couple of weeks ago as I was getting heat fade in the late afternoon.

I have tested the feed with a DishTV Satellite receiver, and that picks up the freeview channels as expected.

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B1GGLZ

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#1235905 11-Feb-2015 18:40

New LNB are normally 10750mhz LO.

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#1235909 11-Feb-2015 18:48

The lNBF is switching to D3 @156E which is the backup. They have built in switching I've not set one myself but look for option Tone switch and try option 0 or 1 or A or B as input

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#1235922 11-Feb-2015 19:06

If you are seeing D3, then the 22kHz switch is getting activated inadvertently. It seems a lot of receivers and software don't cope very well with the single LOf LNBs we use here, so you need to trick it slightly.

Set the high and low LOF settings to 10750 (the LOF of Sky LNBs). Set the switch frequency (there frequency where on a universal LNB which we don't use it would move to high band) to something artificially high like 15000. That should force it to always use the low LOF without activating 22kHz.

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#1237497 13-Feb-2015 17:20

Thanks folks, still can't seem to lock in the D1 satellite using those settings, in either the Aver3D application, or in Windows Media Centre. Also tried 10745 Mhz.

Beginning to suspect I may have a faulty unit, as no matter what settings I choose I get no signal strength. Though the channel scan in WMC still picks up D3 test signal.

However, I do notice when I plug the cable feed into the F-connector, there is sometimes a wee spark or two, is that normal ? I think it maybe the Skybox feeding LNB voltage ?

The satellite feed goes thru a 2-way splitter - one to the SkyBox, the other to the DishTV / Aver Sat box. (either the DishTV or Aver - not simultaneously.)

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#1239045 14-Feb-2015 19:02

SepticSceptic: However, I do notice when I plug the cable feed into the F-connector, there is sometimes a wee spark or two, is that normal ?

Satellite tuners and set top boxes supply power to the LNB(s) mounted on the satellite dish. So, in that sense it is normal that a satellite feed would be carrying a bit of power. However, the fact that you're seeing sparks is not a good thing. It probably means you are not fully powering off the PC tuner and set top box before changing connections. You risk causing damage to the power supplies in the tuner and set top box, which in turn may make the tuner and/or set top box non-functional.

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#1239092 14-Feb-2015 20:10

SepticSceptic: Though the channel scan in WMC still picks up D3 test signal.

If you are getting this, then something is sending a 22kHz signal to the LNB causing it to look at the wrong throat. It also means the tuner is working.

This is usually because the settings expect a "standard" US LNB that has 2 LO frequencies, and uses the 22kHz switch to change between them. Alternatively, look for any setting call 22k, tone, or something similar, and make sure it is turned off.

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#1239099 14-Feb-2015 20:38

Surprised noone has picked up on the mention of splitter and an existing sky box :)

Is it a dual leg powered splitter, or 1 way. The sky unit will likely be powering the LNB and controlling the status if it is a single leg one. And if you are on a channel that is triggering the switch, that's the only thing the other box will be able to see.

You can confirm the LNB settings in the sky config (as said, likely 10750) and start from there, Or remove the sky box and see if the LNB will default to 22k off, though I suspect it will then be unpowered if single leg only.

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mm1352000

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#1239112 14-Feb-2015 21:02

RunningMan: It also means the tuner is working.

Maybe, but not necessarily. For example, the PC tuner may no longer be able to supply power and/or 22 kHz to the LNB. In that scenario it would only be able to receive signal when the STB is powering the LNB, and the STB would control which polarity, band and/or satellite the PC tuner can receive. The opposite scenario is also possible: STB damaged, and PC tuner powering the LNB.

RunningMan: This is usually because the settings expect a "standard" US LNB that has 2 LO frequencies, and uses the 22kHz switch to change between them. Alternatively, look for any setting call 22k, tone, or something similar, and make sure it is turned off.

Yes, those LNBs are common outside the US, especially in Europe and parts of Asia... but not in the US.

If I were the OP I would try the following LNB settings:
LOF 1 (low) = 10750 MHz
LOF 2 (high band) = 11300 MHz [doesn't really matter; anything between LOF 1 and LOF switch]
LOF switch = 12750 MHz

I recommend not to set LOF 2 to 0 or 10750 because some PC tuner drivers don't know how to interpret those combinations properly. The 22 kHz state is indeterminate unless LOF 1 and LOF 2 are different.

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#1243842 21-Feb-2015 18:43

mm1352000:
RunningMan: It also means the tuner is working.

Maybe, but not necessarily. For example, the PC tuner may no longer be able to supply power and/or 22 kHz to the LNB. In that scenario it would only be able to receive signal when the STB is powering the LNB, and the STB would control which polarity, band and/or satellite the PC tuner can receive. The opposite scenario is also possible: STB damaged, and PC tuner powering the LNB.

RunningMan: This is usually because the settings expect a "standard" US LNB that has 2 LO frequencies, and uses the 22kHz switch to change between them. Alternatively, look for any setting call 22k, tone, or something similar, and make sure it is turned off.

Yes, those LNBs are common outside the US, especially in Europe and parts of Asia... but not in the US.

If I were the OP I would try the following LNB settings:
LOF 1 (low) = 10750 MHz
LOF 2 (high band) = 11300 MHz [doesn't really matter; anything between LOF 1 and LOF switch]
LOF switch = 12750 MHz

I recommend not to set LOF 2 to 0 or 10750 because some PC tuner drivers don't know how to interpret those combinations properly. The 22 kHz state is indeterminate unless LOF 1 and LOF 2 are different.

Thanks mm, finally got it working with your settings.

The stupid AverMedia application needed to first Modify the D1 satellite parameters, and once the new parameters were entered, had to hit the Modify button again, not the OK button. Counter intuitive.

Then within WMC, choose dual feed and switch frequency using your settings.

Now, onto the EPG collector stuff :-)

Thanks again